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Old 07-07-2013, 11:08 AM   #1
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tuning a ZL1

so my uncle has a ZL1 and he trying to figure out if he can do any types of tunes without the dealer finding out... i told him no, but i said i would ask fellow ZL1 owners to see what they said. but what tunes would you recommend if he was to do one? he just wants a hand held tuner he doesnt want a dyno tune yet because he wants to be able to un-tune it if need be. he already did the intake, a carbon fiber roto-fab (freaking beautiful) any help would be great thanks guy!
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:20 PM   #2
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ZL1 tuning

(posted this in the ZL1 section but its a ghost town in there lol) so my uncle has a ZL1 and he trying to figure out if he can do any types of tunes without the dealer finding out... i told him no, but i said i would ask fellow ZL1 owners to see what they said. but what tunes would you recommend if he was to do one? he just wants a hand held tuner he doesnt want a dyno tune yet because he wants to be able to un-tune it if need be. he already did the intake, a carbon fiber roto-fab (freaking beautiful intake) any help would be great thanks guy!
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:24 PM   #3
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There is no way of hiding a tune on the SS and ZL1, the ECM keeps a log updates (flashes) .
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There is no way of hiding a tune on the SS and ZL1, the ECM keeps a log updates (flashes) .
This. No way around voiding your warranty if you tune.
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Uh uh uh, not so fast guys, find an SLP dealer and have them do the SLP air filter, shorty headers, and SLP download tune, won't void the warranty.


Here might be the list of Dealers I'm talking about
http://slpcars.com/?page_id=1069

Then again that page says SLP parts are available through any GM dealer
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ALL tunes are detectable... whether you lose your warranty over it is a whole different story.

And none of this is specific to just a ZL1. If he's not going to do any other mods then a tune is worthless IMO.
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Uh uh uh, not so fast guys, find an SLP dealer and have them do the SLP air filter, shorty headers, and SLP download tune, won't void the warranty.


Here might be the list of Dealers I'm talking about
http://slpcars.com/?page_id=1069

Then again that page says SLP parts are available through any GM dealer
Not true - the tune will void your GM powertrain warranty. SLP then has their own powertrain warranty.
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Not true - the tune will void your GM powertrain warranty. SLP then has their own powertrain warranty.
just like Hennessey and some large shops, except this work is done at the dealership.
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GM can see how many times an ECM is flashed (tuned) If the count does not match the official records for the vehicle they will void the drive train warranty no questions asked.
Some dealerships will look past the mods and tune, but GM could still request a data pull on the vehicle if it looks like the customer is trying to pull the wool over their eyes.
If you're worried about a warranty, then mod after it has expired. If not, you have to pay to play.
Sorry about being blunt, but don't expect GM to fix an issue that could be caused by a modification that is not OEM.
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so my uncle has a ZL1 and he trying to figure out if he can do any types of tunes without the dealer finding out... i told him no, but i said i would ask fellow ZL1 owners to see what they said. but what tunes would you recommend if he was to do one? he just wants a hand held tuner he doesnt want a dyno tune yet because he wants to be able to un-tune it if need be. he already did the intake, a carbon fiber roto-fab (freaking beautiful) any help would be great thanks guy!
There is no way to hide the fact that the ECM has been flashed more times than GM has on Record, but it is Very Unlikley that the warranty would be voided simply from a tune.

I have tuned over 1400 Gen5 Camaros and Not one time has anyone told me they're warranty was voided.

I provide Remote Custom Tuning Via the SCT hand held tuner and send tune files over email.

I have tuned over 100 ZL-1s to date.

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There is no way to hide the fact that the ECM has been flashed more times than GM has on Record, but it is Very Unlikley that the warranty would be voided simply from a tune.

I have tuned over 1400 Gen5 Camaros and Not one time has anyone told me they're warranty was voided.

I provide Remote Custom Tuning Via the SCT hand held tuner and send tune files over email.

I have tuned over 100 ZL-1s to date.

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That's great to hear. What about the CTS-V's?
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I still need my ZL1 to get tuned by you for Kooks headers and cats and Rotofab. I'm so worried about blowing the motor.
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I still need my ZL1 to get tuned by you for Kooks headers and cats and Rotofab. I'm so worried about blowing the motor.
I can put those worries to Rest my Friend.

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Had a diablo tune on my last Camaro through my dealership. They still honored my warranty and had no issues. Some dealers offer these upgrades, I would talk with them.
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Had a diablo tune on my last Camaro through my dealership. They still honored my warranty and had no issues. Some dealers offer these upgrades, I would talk with them.
Be careful, a Lot of Dealers want to get in to the Performance Aftermarket but Lack the Skills to do things right.

This goes for both General repair and Performance installations, Choose Wisely.

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There is no way to hide the fact that the ECM has been flashed more times than GM has on Record, but it is Very Unlikley that the warranty would be voided simply from a tune.

I have tuned over 1400 Gen5 Camaros and Not one time has anyone told me they're warranty was voided.

I provide Remote Custom Tuning Via the SCT hand held tuner and send tune files over email.

I have tuned over 100 ZL-1s to date.

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There was no hesitation about who would tune my brand new 2SS/RS 1LE with 65miles on it after a buddy and I installed Kooks headers with off road pipes and a Magnuson supercharger.....it would be Ted Jannetty!!! He answered SOOOO many of my questions before I even bought my tune and then held my hand through the whole buying/tuning process (I couldn't download my stock tune because I needed to update my hand held so that was a nightmare in its self ). Well worth the piece of mind when you are talking about a brand new camaro with a brand new engine.

I hope one of these days I can thank Ted face to face and show him I'm not really as dumb as I seem .
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Forgot to add.....Ted asked me what mods I had/will have and what octane I would be using so my custom tune is a CUSTOM tune for MY camaro!!! No "blanket" tune but a "my camaro" specific tune (that I'm sure he's done to other camaro's with my set up many, many times).
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There was no hesitation about who would tune my brand new 2SS/RS 1LE with 65miles on it after a buddy and I installed Kooks headers with off road pipes and a Magnuson supercharger.....it would be Ted Jannetty!!! He answered SOOOO many of my questions before I even bought my tune and then held my hand through the whole buying/tuning process (I couldn't download my stock tune because I needed to update my hand held so that was a nightmare in its self ). Well worth the piece of mind when you are talking about a brand new camaro with a brand new engine.

I hope one of these days I can thank Ted face to face and show him I'm not really as dumb as I seem .
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Forgot to add.....Ted asked me what mods I had/will have and what octane I would be using so my custom tune is a CUSTOM tune for MY camaro!!! No "blanket" tune but a "my camaro" specific tune (that I'm sure he's done to other camaro's with my set up many, many times).
Thank you sir for the Kind works, I am Happy I could help Complete Your Project.

No such thing as a dumb question, I am happy to answer all of your questions.

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....and this is why anyone who has had a question or problem with their camaro or CTS (or maybe any GM vehicle) would agree when I say Ted J is such an asset to C5!

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....and this is why anyone who has had a question or problem with their camaro or CTS (or maybe any GM vehicle) would agree when I say Ted J is such an asset to C5!

LOL you can Add Ford, Chrysler, Honda Toyota, Yamaha, AMC, or just about any internal combustion engine to the list.

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I can put those worries to Rest my Friend.

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I do need a quote. I'm a service manager for another brand. I know what can happen. This car was a gift for my father. Your post show you are tremendous support to the members here.
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I do need a quote. I'm a service manager for another brand. I know what can happen. This car was a gift for my father. Your post show you are tremendous support to the members here.
You can see everything here I can't post prices.

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Once I have tuned your car and you decide to do more work, Purchase your parts from JRE and Get Tune UPDATES FREE for those Parts.

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I keep seeing this debate. If you want to tune and have it absolutely undetectable. Purchase a second ECM install it and tune that one. I found a place on the internet and cost was only $300 shipped. The dealer wanted $303 plus a hefty core charge. I have been kicking around what mods to do for months. Even have boxes of parts in the garage, but had a ton of trouble with my Vette and don't want to go down that road again.
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I keep seeing this debate. If you want to tune and have it absolutely undetectable. Purchase a second ECM install it and tune that one. I found a place on the internet and cost was only $300 shipped. The dealer wanted $303 plus a hefty core charge. I have been kicking around what mods to do for months. Even have boxes of parts in the garage, but had a ton of trouble with my Vette and don't want to go down that road again.
Sorry does not work on these cars, each ECM installed must be programmed to communicate with all the other modules on the car.

Been there and so have many people.

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