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Old 07-12-2013, 07:40 AM   #1
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ZL1 Heel & Toe Driving

I could do this fairly well in my SS, but just can't get it in the ZL1. Seems like the pedals don't line up right. Yes, I've looked at videos. Anyone else find this to be an issue with this car or have any tips?
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:26 AM   #2
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I have found it to be tricky as well. It seems the heel of my right foot catches the floor and not the gas pedal. What helped on my last track day was to place my foot higher on the brake pedal (closer to the center of my foot vs the toes) and then rotate/roll the back of my foot around to blip the gas with the heel.

Large or thick sole shoes will also make the process more difficult. You can try rolling your foot over and using the side of your heel, or rotating your foot around and use the bottom of your heel. Once you find a way to make it work, then practice, practice, practice.....
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:36 AM   #3
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I drive barefoot. drives my wife crazy! that helps.
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:49 AM   #4
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I drive barefoot. drives my wife crazy! that helps.
Maybe full birthday suit is the trick!
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:34 AM   #5
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I have found it to be tricky as well. It seems the heel of my right foot catches the floor and not the gas pedal. What helped on my last track day was to place my foot higher on the brake pedal (closer to the center of my foot vs the toes) and then rotate/roll the back of my foot around to blip the gas with the heel.

Large or thick sole shoes will also make the process more difficult. You can try rolling your foot over and using the side of your heel, or rotating your foot around and use the bottom of your heel. Once you find a way to make it work, then practice, practice, practice.....
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll give those a shot. Probably can get a feel for that just sitting in the car. The main problem is I slam the brake pedal to get to the gas pedal to blip it. I'm sure it's just pinning down the proper technique.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:38 AM   #6
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I drive barefoot. drives my wife crazy! that helps.
LOl, I was thinking maybe I need a 2" heel. I'll try to dig a pair of old disco shoes out of my closet this weekend.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:54 AM   #7
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I drive barefoot. drives my wife crazy! that helps.
my first autocross there was a 70year old guy that refused to put on shoes. he had a 1975 helmet that was painted with the most gold metal flake i have ever seen. he wheeled a triumph tr6 to a FTD (fastest time of the day).

in my car i got to ditch the skater shoes for a set of pumas
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:38 AM   #8
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I changed the pedals. Much better now.
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I got the A6, it does all the throttle blipping it self ...
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:28 PM   #10
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I got the A6, it does all the throttle blipping it self ...
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:28 PM   #11
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:38 PM   #12
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Try to use the ball of your foot over edge of the brake pedal, just enough to trail brake! The outside portion of the foot on the throttle and then "blip the throttle". I know it sounds weird but it does work. Of course it helps to have a wide foot and is easier with driving shoes on.
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:03 PM   #13
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Maybe full birthday suit is the trick!
Burn my ass on the seat in the hot vegas heat, no thanks! if I crash my car I can explain not having shoes but naked.....doubt anyone would run to help..

You guys think im joking but it works! not for everyone but i get more and quicker control that way.
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:22 PM   #14
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I changed the pedals. Much better now.
What pedals did you go with?

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Old 07-13-2013, 12:59 PM   #15
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I think that's why lpe makes these...

http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...7#.UeGVZKW9KK0
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Old 07-14-2013, 06:52 AM   #16
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These are the pedals. There is an extended gas pedal that makes it easy to catch the brake and gas at the same time. They work great for me. I'll have to find a picture.

http://www.srpracing.com/pd-camaro-2...ipe-pedals.cfm
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:55 PM   #17
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I've been heel toeing my 97SS in road racing for the last 10 years or so. It has the same problem as mentioned above, even with just size 11s theres not enough room in the footwell of these cars to rotate the heel without catching the carpet. I eventually went to the method described above where I place my foot right between the gas and brake resting equally on both. Since at rest the brake pedal is higher than the throttle, applying the brake in usual racing situations brings the throttle and brake about even. Then when you need to blip the throttle I just rotate my ankle right to hit the gas (roll it over like when you sprain your ankle). Swinging your knee a little to the right at the same time helps with the angle you need. Takes some practice but works well, and is the only way I can do it in my 4th gen and in my ZL1 as the footwells are so narrow top to bottom. Of course I have racing pedals in the 4th gen (its a full on race car) so its not as easy in the ZL1 with the stock pedals but still doable. Still, I am eyeing those SRP pedals...
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:20 PM   #18
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Heel toe with size 14's runs from clutch to gas pedal and doesnt work for me.... good thing my feet are wide enough to hit brake and gas at the same time..... tried it today, and i now see me going through tires 3 times as fast
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:12 PM   #19
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i prefer to drive in just one or two pair of shoes that i own just for this reason, i struggle with heel toeing a little bit otherwise.
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Old 09-24-2013, 01:44 PM   #20
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I have found it to be tricky as well. It seems the heel of my right foot catches the floor and not the gas pedal. What helped on my last track day was to place my foot higher on the brake pedal (closer to the center of my foot vs the toes) and then rotate/roll the back of my foot around to blip the gas with the heel.

Large or thick sole shoes will also make the process more difficult. You can try rolling your foot over and using the side of your heel, or rotating your foot around and use the bottom of your heel. Once you find a way to make it work, then practice, practice, practice.....
I do it similar in this car; Place the ball of your foot higher on the brake pedal and lightly tap it while simultaneously blipping the gas with your heel (this brings both pedals nearly even) and then progressively applying as much brake pressure as needed for the situation!
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my first autocross there was a 70year old guy that refused to put on shoes. he had a 1975 helmet that was painted with the most gold metal flake i have ever seen. he wheeled a triumph tr6 to a FTD (fastest time of the day).

in my car i got to ditch the skater shoes for a set of pumas
....sadly, I must admit first, I ain't that old yet, and second...I have done that....alot..
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