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Old 07-14-2009, 12:47 PM   #120
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Folks,

Very quickly, having just reviewed this thread quickly, I feel it allows me to see the issue pretty clearly, without getting into debating/responding to alot of the posts here.

*GM/Chevrolet should be commended for addressing the issue immediately, and NOT choosing to ingore it, therefore allowing them to identify and correct this issue asap.*

*Bashing GM/Chevrolet serves NO purpose. EVERY manufacturer has issue's. It's how they're handled which makes the difference. IMO, GM/Chevrolet is going above and beyond to rectify the problem.*


While I understand and appreciate everyone's opinions/thoughts/passion when it comes to Camaro, let's be open minded and look at the BIG picture - GM/Chevrolet has given "us" an awesome car. Let's appreciate that while realizing we're all human.

GM/Chevrolet has shown "us" the respect by bringing this "to light". Let's show the same respect by understanding.

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Good summary.

All manufacturers have problems at one time or another, and new products typically have more problems than older ones. In most cases, how the manufacturer handles those problems is much more important than the problems themselves. An honest evaluation of the problem and the solution, then following through on the solution -- not ignoring it, in other words -- is the right way to go.

GM is still evaluating the problem (I think). So far they still seem to be on the right track, and I'm satisfied the problem will be addressed. My car is in QC and is likely one of the Problem Children. I just ask that she be treated gently.

Scott, the mods here, participating GM employees, and the other helpful members of camaro5 deserve a round of applause for helping the rest of us.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:49 PM   #121
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Alright everybody I just got a call from my dealer!!!

What he told me came from a GM employee who called the plant in Oshawa

and he said the only problem is with the short throw shifter!!!

Nothing is wrong with the regular Manual shifter!!!

So I hope Mods read this!!

He wasnt lying it came straight from the plant!!!!!

So there is no problem with the M6!!

The only constraint there is, is on the Short Throw Shifter!!


RJT, you are referring to an OLD issue. the Hurst short throw shifter has been on constraints for a long while and you can't even order them anymore.

The new issue is with the transmission's output shaft breaking off. The shifter is not the same as the output shaft. The shiftter is at the top of the tranny, you shift gears with it. The output shaft transfers the power to the driveshaft>diffrential>axles>wheels. When the shaft breaks, your engine still runs, your tranny still shifts, but the car ain't moving!

Have you not read GM's official statement in the HomePage?
Just because someone at the plant says something, it doesn't mean it is EVERYTHING he knows.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:50 PM   #122
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Well all I know is there Is nothing wrong with the regular M6 in the SS a GM tech at my dealer called the plant himself and they said nothing was wrong with it!!
I see. But the fact that GM is holding all SS M6s suggests different. I would request that we wait for a final word from GM before we jump to conclusions of our own. Just to be on the safe side.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:51 PM   #123
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:51 PM   #124
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RJT, you are referring to an OLD issue. the short throw shifter has been on constraints for awhile and you can't even order them anymore. The new issue is with the transmission's output shaft breaking off. Have you not read GM's official statement in the HomePage?
Just because someone at the plant says something, it doesn't mean it is EVERYTHING he knows.

Yes I read it and Im guessing they got it fixed then Im going by what the plant guy said!
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:53 PM   #125
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I see. But the fact that GM is holding all SS M6s suggests different. I would request that we wait for a final word from GM before we jump to conclusions of our own. Just to be on the safe side.
yeah I know that but they made that statement this morning at like 8:30!!

And they only told you guys!~!

Im not saying I dont belive what yall are saying I am just going by what I have heard!!
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yeah I know that but they made that statement this morning at like 8:30!!

And they only told you guys!~!

Im not saying I dont belive what yall are saying I am just going by what I have heard!!
And that's a wonderful thing you can chose to believe what you want. I am sure Gm will be making a more "formal" announcement in the very near future.
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:00 PM   #127
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yeah I know that but they made that statement this morning at like 8:30!!

And they only told you guys!~!

Im not saying I dont belive what yall are saying I am just going by what I have heard!!
Well we are saying we don't believe what your saying... No point in lying to yourself, there is a delay.. cars will be held in QC AKA area 51
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:03 PM   #128
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Dragoneye makes a very good point. We have been told that more information would follow. And that is from the top of the food chain. Relax and dont put to much credibility in what a mechanic at a dealer said a friend at a factory said...Come on guys dont lose all logic here!

And when Fbodfather says dont dump the clutch at 5000 rmps dont dump it...Are you guys all nuts.
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:04 PM   #129
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I'll be the first one to blast GM, but you know what, its a Tremec issue and GM is the victim here. Guys who already have thier cars, just take it easy until GM comes out with the VIN range of affected cars.

I placed my order in Dec 08 and HAD a tpw of 7/13, talk about murphys law!!
I really feel its just a bad batch of output shafts. Shouldn't take too long to fix.

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Alright everybody I just got a call from my dealer!!!

What he told me came from a GM employee who called the plant in Oshawa

and he said the only problem is with the short throw shifter!!!

Nothing is wrong with the regular Manual shifter!!!

So I hope Mods read this!!

He wasnt lying it came straight from the plant!!!!!

So there is no problem with the M6!!

The only constraint there is, is on the Short Throw Shifter!!
I did not order the short throw shifter to thats not the issue
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:07 PM   #131
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:12 PM   #132
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Jalopnik.com is echoing Camaro5's statement from GM.... just an FYI
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:13 PM   #133
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There are so many great points being made here....I am excited to see that so many folks really are respecting and thrilled that GM strike that...The New GM is not hiding behind a glass walled building and pretending there are no problems. They are being proactive and forthright. How many folks never new of a problem with their car until they got the little impersonal card in the mail saying it was recalled. We are all getting that straight from the mouth of the company. This is a great thing. Dont bash Tremec just yet. This whole issue might just involve a little engineering and GM has a lot of experience with an engineering fix. May not be an issue with the transmission itself being defective it could be the application or engineering surrounding it. Now what we should be complaining about is why Scott did not drive the daylights out of Thor when he had the chance. You all enjoy the day and to the mods thanks you are all doing a great job making sure everyone has fun during these tough times...Larry
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any cars at 4200 last week ,will that have affect on them .
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:20 PM   #136
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any cars at 4200 last week ,will that have affect on them .
Pretty sure if your at 4200 your car has left the factory. Someone will either confirm this or prove me wrong haha.
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