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Old 05-13-2013, 10:16 AM   #226
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Btw, I asked ADM because I know they've done quite a few...they recommended to stick with the fluid that comes shipped. So that's my plan.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:20 AM   #227
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This kit is the answer. It's disgusting what the vendors are asking for the 9" conversions. (There, I said it). I'm sure they had to price it to remain profitable, but there were no alternatives out there at the time so people who need stronger had to pony up.

This puppy is half the price of an aftermarket 9", axles and driveshaft, and I bet it is stronger too. You can bet that 50x more R&D and testing went into these than any aftermarket company could afford to do, if they had the equipment and computer sim power and software.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:26 AM   #228
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This kit is the answer. It's disgusting what the vendors are asking for the 9" conversions. (There, I said it). I'm sure they had to price it to remain profitable, but there were no alternatives out there at the time so people who need stronger had to pony up.

This puppy is half the price of an aftermarket 9", axles and driveshaft, and I bet it is stronger too. You can bet that 50x more R&D and testing went into these than any aftermarket company could afford to do, if they had the equipment and computer sim power and software.
Glad I waited. Sometimes it's better to just see how things pan out than to try to keep up with the Jone's. I almost got "fully" caught up in that game a few years ago, and made a huge mistake in my sequence of mods that cost me dearly.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:24 AM   #229
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Unless I'm mistaken, there are a very limited selection of gear ratio's for this housing. That would be the only real drawback I could see.
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:51 PM   #230
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The kits are out as of the 12th list is $4500, and there in stock
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:17 AM   #231
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The kits are out as of the 12th list is $4500, and there in stock

The kits have been available for awhile, dealer just has to special order it. Got mine 3 months ago for much cheaper than list
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:31 AM   #232
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So how cheap are people actually getting these?
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:36 PM   #233
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So how cheap are people actually getting these?

I got mine in April for $3750. I think that's the dealer discount. It's good to have friends .
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:52 PM   #234
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[QUOTE=SUX2BU;6802998]So how cheap are people actually getting these?
I pieced mine together for about $3500 but I had an employee discount also.
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Old 07-22-2013, 03:04 AM   #235
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Can someone explain to me why the axles are different sizes?????
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:06 AM   #236
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Can someone explain to me why the axles are different sizes?????
They are sized differently to help prevent wheel hop. The idea is that if the axles are different sizes, they will twist at different rates upon hard acceleration. Twisting at different rates, theoretically should release at different times thus preventing wheel hop.
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Thats some serious thinking there!!!!!
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:04 AM   #238
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how does the ZL1 rear end stack up to the other vendors 9" rear ends?
I would think the aftermarket 9" is more stout (with a heavier price tag)
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:15 PM   #239
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how does the ZL1 rear end stack up to the other vendors 9" rear ends?
I would think the aftermarket 9" is more stout (with a heavier price tag)
I certainly can't answer that question with any facts, but from my research prior to purchasing the ZL1 drive line...all the big after market rear ends are solid. I didn't see any failures on any ZL1s, DSS 9" or the Gforce. But the ZL1 was half the price.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:03 PM   #240
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PartsTaxi.com has the kit for $3745:


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Old 08-15-2013, 12:52 PM   #241
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The ZL1 rear end is definitely better than the trash on the 2010's, but, I don't think the stock ZL1 rear is anywhere close to the strength of something like a GForce 9" rear. Why do I say this? Because, a GForce will hold upwards to about 1000rwhp. there is no way GM is going to overrate their's just for the sake of being nice. If it holds 600rwhp. I'd be surprised.
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:10 PM   #242
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The ZL1 rear end is definitely better than the trash on the 2010's, but, I don't think the stock ZL1 rear is anywhere close to the strength of something like a GForce 9" rear. Why do I say this? Because, a GForce will hold upwards to about 1000rwhp. there is no way GM is going to overrate their's just for the sake of being nice. If it holds 600rwhp. I'd be surprised.
Our 9" kits now come standard with our big 31 spline Outlaw axles and huge 35 spline inner stubs. It's obnoxiously overkill for a lot of guys but some guys just want the best.
We have customers that regularly put down 1300+rwhp with our kit.
The ZR1 rear just isn't going to take that without some serious upgrades like axles, better stubs and so on.
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Old 08-15-2013, 04:13 PM   #243
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The ZL1 rear end is definitely better than the trash on the 2010's, but, I don't think the stock ZL1 rear is anywhere close to the strength of something like a GForce 9" rear. Why do I say this? Because, a GForce will hold upwards to about 1000rwhp. there is no way GM is going to overrate their's just for the sake of being nice. If it holds 600rwhp. I'd be surprised.
I certainly won't debate the ZL1 is stronger than any of the high end drivelines, but it will certainly hold more than 600 whp. When I researched there were no reports of any zl1 driveline failures. I still haven't heard of any, but I haven't been looking either.

I found many ~750 whp cars run hard w/o issues. I'm running just over 800 whp w/o issue (soon to be > 850). I'll admit my car has been in the garage more than at the track (hence the pathetic ET). But I hope to change that soon and will continue to report back on the ZL1 driveline.

So far, holding strong!
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Old 08-15-2013, 04:38 PM   #244
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I have to agree, we get involved in allot of builds and i have not heard of a single one having issues. true none have been super high Hp but it must be decent as there not having issues.
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