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Old 07-22-2013, 06:49 PM   #826
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ZL1 water tray bolts on to my 2012 V6. I guess I'm special. The gray wires on the left side need to be wedged under the tray though.









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Well I'll be a blue nosed gopher, I had never noticed those places to snap the drain clips into until just now. I had assumed since others had said there was no place to attach it that they were not there. Thanks for the pics. I will order one tomorrow.

Uh oh I just noticed a problem, it doesn't leave a lot of room to reach in to empty the catch can.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:40 PM   #827
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Get the ZL1 water drip tray that sits above the radiator. Part# #22828415. I'm not sure if ACS deflector works well with it-I'm assuming it would. I got the ACS ZL1-style deflector.
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:41 PM   #828
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Well I'll be a blue nosed gopher, I had never noticed those places to snap the drain clips into until just now. I had assumed since others had said there was no place to attach it that they were not there. Thanks for the pics. I will order one tomorrow.

Uh oh I just noticed a problem, it doesn't leave a lot of room to reach in to empty the catch can.
Glad the pictures helped. I think I discovered this when researching the ZL1 front end conversion-there were some similar part numbers. With my Elite can location, there is less room to unscrew the bottom but still doable. Maybe you could relocate your can to the driver-side location?

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Thanks for the info man
Thanks to 01pewterz28 for being a pioneer. I think I asked him three times for the part number.

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Old 07-26-2013, 08:23 PM   #829
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I wanna buy it but I'm still having second thoughts...

1. cutting my hood
2. water deflector
-when you're driving at least 40mph, the wind that's coming from the front grille
(upper/lower) can contribute to the direction of the water flow that's getting off the
deflector - if it's raining hard. That being said, there might be a chance that those
water will go to the engine bay and some electronic stuff. This is just my assumption.
Any thoughts?
3. I'm thinking about the future problems that may arise from cutting the hood...like
corrosion and stability (maybe after 5 yrs?). We can paint the area to protect it and put something on top
of it for extra precaution but those are only temporary solutions. What do you guys
think?

If I get enlightened then I will purchase this product...for now, I still need your opinion especially from ACS.

Thanks for all your inputs!
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:28 PM   #830
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If I decided to buy this, what do you think is the best color combination for my car? all black, yellow body-black vents or vice versa?
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:53 PM   #831
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Hi Delta,

Thank you for the interest, all valid questions... see below for my comments.

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I wanna buy it but I'm still having second thoughts...

1. cutting my hood

Pretty simple process, we supply a template, and a trimming tolerance of 1/8''.

2. water deflector
-when you're driving at least 40mph, the wind that's coming from the front grille
(upper/lower) can contribute to the direction of the water flow that's getting off the
deflector - if it's raining hard. That being said, there might be a chance that those
water will go to the engine bay and some electronic stuff. This is just my assumption.

At high speed water will not be flowing into the extractor, at that point the windflow is the opposite direction, the defletor works at most when the car is parked and a major rainfall occurs, also consider, the engine is "water" proof, during highway or city driving water can infiltrate from all directions, hence the engine is not sealed from water...

Any thoughts?
3. I'm thinking about the future problems that may arise from cutting the hood...like
corrosion and stability (maybe after 5 yrs?). We can paint the area to protect it and put something on top
of it for extra precaution but those are only temporary solutions. What do you guys
think?

Corrosion : It is an aluminium hood, so it cannot corrode.
Stability, we trimout non-structural portions of the hood, when the insert is bolted and bonded, the area's strength is reinstated.

If I get enlightened then I will purchase this product...for now, I still need your opinion especially from ACS.

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Old 07-26-2013, 09:00 PM   #832
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I wanna buy it but I'm still having second thoughts...

1. cutting my hood
2. water deflector
-when you're driving at least 40mph, the wind that's coming from the front grille
(upper/lower) can contribute to the direction of the water flow that's getting off the
deflector - if it's raining hard. That being said, there might be a chance that those
water will go to the engine bay and some electronic stuff. This is just my assumption.
Any thoughts?
3. I'm thinking about the future problems that may arise from cutting the hood...like
corrosion and stability (maybe after 5 yrs?). We can paint the area to protect it and put something on top
of it for extra precaution but those are only temporary solutions. What do you guys
think?

If I get enlightened then I will purchase this product...for now, I still need your opinion especially from ACS.

Thanks for all your inputs!
No water problems after 7 months and over 35" of rainfall.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:31 PM   #833
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How long would it take to get this to Cali?
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:42 PM   #834
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3-5 days depending on the fedex service in your area.

Shipping is flat rate 65$, we can always overnight it... expect about 150$

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Old 07-26-2013, 10:16 PM   #835
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No water problems after 7 months and over 35" of rainfall.
Thanks for your input! Since the heat is coming out of your painted insert, are there any paint deterioration present or whatnot?
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:19 PM   #836
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We use a heat resistant composite material, same material we have used on many OEM programs. As for the paint, just be sure your painter is using a high quality paint system like PPG, Spies Heckers, Dupont ... .

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Old 07-26-2013, 10:22 PM   #837
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***WARNING!!!
Just a FYI for everyone. I have a Whipple and ROTO FAB CAI.
Neither the ACS or the ZL1 water deflector will work.

The clearance is just to low. The middle bolt on the stock water deflector hits the elbow on the intake. And the ACS intake has more clearance than the ZL1.

Have less than a 1/4" from hitting the mesh.


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We use a heat resistant composite material, same material we have used on many OEM programs. As for the paint, just be sure your painter is using a high quality paint system like PPG, Spies Heckers, Dupont ... .

What do you think about corrosion for cutting off the hood? and the water flow that might go to the engine bay or electronic stuff while driving on a freeway (with heavy rain of course). because i am pretty sure that the air getting in from the front grille will contribute on the water's direction while being deflected underneath the hood. Just a thought.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:03 PM   #839
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Thanks for your input! Since the heat is coming out of your painted insert, are there any paint deterioration present or whatnot?
Mine is showing some signs but I think it's from painting it with a rattle can, I am going to strip off that paint and have it professionally painted next week. I used the rattle can paint because at that time my funds were shot from purchasing the insert. If I had it to do over again I would have had it painted professionally to begin with.
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Mine is showing some signs but I think it's from painting it with a rattle can, I am going to strip off that paint and have it professionally painted next week. I used the rattle can paint because at that time my funds were shot from purchasing the insert. If I had it to do over again I would have had it painted professionally to begin with.

Nice to know. I really appreciate that. Still want this product..but I'm hesitating for some reason.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:03 AM   #841
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Nice to know. I really appreciate that. Still want this product..but I'm hesitating for some reason.
Im right there with you. Im also thinking that since this is the T1, what will the T2 or T3 insert look like? Look at the ACS T4 ports for the fog lights, so many different variations now.
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So, just so Im not confused this particular insert is the same look and everything as the ZL1 correct?
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Im right there with you. Im also thinking that since this is the T1, what will the T2 or T3 insert look like? Look at the ACS T4 ports for the fog lights, so many different variations now.

I know, right? But i dunno if I can wait any longer...
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So, just so Im not confused this particular insert is the same look and everything as the ZL1 correct?

as far as I know, yeah...same look with lil differences...
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Thanks man.

ACS can u clarify if their is any differences?

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Thanks man.

ACS can u clarify if their is any differences?

Thanks.
The insert is not an exact copy of the ZL1 insert, its similar. The one similarity that both inserts have is that they both help expel the heat from the engine bay by allowing the air to escape through the vents. The biggest difference between the two is that the ZL1 insert is made of carbon fiber materials and sits flush with the hood. Were as the ACS insert is made from a composite material and sits on top of the hood.
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I know, right? But i dunno if I can wait any longer...
Go for it! They look great and the first time you are sitting stuck in traffic and you see the heat waves coming out of the vents you know it was worth it. Even though heat expulsion is not its primary purpose ( front end lift reduction at high speed is the primary purpose ) it does give you some peace of mind knowing all that heat has a way to escape now.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:58 AM   #848
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***WARNING!!!
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Neither the ACS or the ZL1 water deflector will work.

The clearance is just to low. The middle bolt on the stock water deflector hits the elbow on the intake. And the ACS intake has more clearance than the ZL1.

Have less than a 1/4" from hitting the mesh.


How about creating a notch in the lowest point of the insert. Simply using a tool like dremel or rotor, if you're willing to try, I'll send you new grill work free of charge.

Another option is return the insert to us, I will shave 3/8'' off the louver, this would be in straightline, and fabricate new grill works for you. Like I said in the email, I may have something else to help with the water management.

Can you confirm the SC did not rub the OEM hoodliner ?
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As per email sent to you. The whipple does hit the hood liner.. Hits where the WHIPPLE name plate is and also rubs on the intake elbow.. Has always done this. The pulley IS rubbing on the mesh.

Wear marks can been seen.

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As per email sent to you. The whipple does hit the hood liner.. Hits where the WHIPPLE name plate is and also rubs on the intake elbow.. Has always done this. The pulley IS rubbing on the mesh.

Wear marks can been seen.

It must not be hitting much, you should be able to see where it's hitting on the mesh too. Do you think you could take a grinder or dremel and cut away enough of the mesh to clear it? Just thinking out loud here.
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