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Old 07-20-2013, 12:08 PM   #1
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5th Bow Pictures

I am in the process of replacing my 5th Bow. My dealer is letting me do all my own work. My dealer only sold two convertible and has never worked on one. Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1374339916.320747.jpg
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Here is the new 5th bow. Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1374339959.287658.jpg
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The end of the new one is wider and thicker than the old one. Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1374340020.640319.jpg
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This is the end of the old one.
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You have to take a lot of the car apart.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:32 PM   #2
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Wow, you must be talented ...not in a million years would I attempt this !!!
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:04 PM   #3
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Ya I do most of my own work. I don't trust my dealer.
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Old 07-20-2013, 02:40 PM   #4
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That bar looks pretty solid, how do they break so easily?
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:30 PM   #5
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This is the end of the old one. This end is bent down.
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Finished pic. Now it's tight again. Took me 6 hrs. Wife helped me lift it out of car.
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:00 AM   #6
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This is the end of the old one. This end is bent down.
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Finished pic. Now it's tight again. Took me 6 hrs. Wife helped me lift it out of car.
That's EXACTLY how it should look. Congrats on a job well done! Hopefully this issue won't crop up again.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:56 PM   #7
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I agree, it looks great. I can see how the connection piece could bend down. I should have asked for my old one. It's been 2 years now.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:31 AM   #8
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While you were in there, any insight as to what is causing the bow ends to bend? Mine broke twice, and I still believe it was caused by the old style WMB being too small and stiff during cooler temps. Do you have the new style WMB, or change it out while you were in there?

Great job by the way!
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:35 AM   #9
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I agree, it looks great. I can see how the connection piece could bend down. I should have asked for my old one. It's been 2 years now.
They cant give you the old one. It has to be returned to GM. I am taking mine back to the dealer today.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:36 PM   #10
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In your opinion, with the new improved bow, do you think it will ever happen again? You're very brave. On a difficulty scale of 1-10, with 10 being extremely difficult, how hard was it? Good job!
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:16 AM   #11
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I still have the old bag. I did not see any sign of rubbing or contact. They are very complicated and something must not be right in yours for it to be breaking. Mine just bent and I could see how this could happen it even with nothing hitting on it. The spot that bends has a lot of torque on it when putting the top up
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In your opinion, with the new improved bow, do you think it will ever happen again? You're very brave. On a difficulty scale of 1-10, with 10 being extremely difficult, how hard was it? Good job!
About a 9.75.
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:23 AM   #13
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Also people getting leaks. I can see how it happens. The front drains pop into a hole and is very difficult to get in place just right. If they are snapped in wrong they will for sure leak. I have the service manual for my car and it does not give dealers a lot to work off. So if someone working on your car is first doing this they have their work cut out for them.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:36 PM   #14
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I'm still waiting on a dealer to fix mine and the other problem I have is the right cable tension is loose. While you had yours apart could you tell how its attached on the rear? Also thanks so much for your photos and insight on the 5th bow.
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:40 PM   #15
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I'm still waiting on a dealer to fix mine and the other problem I have is the right cable tension is loose. While you had yours apart could you tell how its attached on the rear? Also thanks so much for your photos and insight on the 5th bow.
The cables are are held on with a screw and at the end of each side cable is a spring bolted to the frame. The top it self is attached by pressing a z strip in a slot on the fifth bow. My dealer also asked if I would answer any questions they may have if they have to work on one. They said I did a great job on mine.
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:31 PM   #16
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I'm still waiting on a dealer to fix mine and the other problem I have is the right cable tension is loose. While you had yours apart could you tell how its attached on the rear? Also thanks so much for your photos and insight on the 5th bow.
Just scheduled an appointment with my dealer to first discuss the talent of his technicians.
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:23 PM   #17
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Just scheduled an appointment with my dealer to first discuss the talent of his technicians.
If they have never done it I wish you luck. I would ask them to let you watch so your car is not all dinged up. You have to remove a lot of the car to get it out. Take pics of your car before service if you cant watch.
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If they have never done it I wish you luck. I would ask them to let you watch so your car is not all dinged up. You have to remove a lot of the car to get it out. Take pics of your car before service if you cant watch.
Yeh, I hear ya. This is the dealer that left it out in the snow while waiting for parts. It had never even seen rain. I would have rather picked it up and parked it until the parts came in. Many customers were staring at my while I chewed the service manager and the owner a new blow hole.
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:28 AM   #19
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Yeh, I hear ya. This is the dealer that left it out in the snow while waiting for parts. It had never even seen rain. I would have rather picked it up and parked it until the parts came in. Many customers were staring at my while I chewed the service manager and the owner a new blow hole.

Exactly why I fixed my own top.
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:37 AM   #20
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Pretty cool. I see in the pic of the old one that is bent, that the fleece tape on the end of the aluminum extrusion is already worn off on the corner. That corner digs into the canvas when the top is down. By chance did you take the time to round off that corner before reassembly? I've been considering doing that to mine.

Can you get that aluminum frame member off without complete removal of the top and/or the water bag???
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:31 AM   #21
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great job todd. i wish i had replaced my own top at first sign of trouble. once the dealer got hold of it and that snowball started rolling, there were dents scratches and leaks abound. had to sell her.
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:16 AM   #22
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Pretty cool. I see in the pic of the old one that is bent, that the fleece tape on the end of the aluminum extrusion is already worn off on the corner. That corner digs into the canvas when the top is down. By chance did you take the time to round off that corner before reassembly? I've been considering doing that to mine.

Can you get that aluminum frame member off without complete removal of the top and/or the water bag???

I actually pulled the tape of disassembling it. You have to take out the frame and the water bag. It all comes out as one assembly. Look at the picture of the back of the car. That pic shows the inside of the trunk. The square boxes you see are my two subwoofer boxes that fit under the top when down.
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