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Old 07-26-2013, 11:07 PM   #18
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Dave ..... Think 1SS 1LE.... Can be done for the $40K you're thinking (or less per some forum members that have supposedly done so...) A 323HP V6 is no slouch, but if your heart is thinking V8, better go with it if its in your budget so no regrets later.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:16 PM   #19
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Thanks, guys. What are you thoughts on dual performance exhaust? Does it give it some extra rumble?

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Regarding the exhaust, it really depends on whether you want to keep it stock, or if you want to get something aftermarket.

If you want to keep everything stock, I would get the dual mode.

But if you're open to the idea of an aftermarket exhaust, you can probably get a "better" sound for less money. I say better because exhaust sound is very subjective.

The mufflers on the stock SS weigh something like 30-40lbs and they're enormous. They sound pretty wussy when compared to aftermarket, or the new dual mode. I haven't heard the dual mode in person, but on YouTube it sounds pretty decent. Just my opinion.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:16 PM   #20
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Hey Folks,

Happy to be here.

I'm 37 years old and it has been 20 years (depressing) since my last "muscle" car. I had a nice, rebuilt Mustang in high school and loved it. After highschool I did the family thing and essentially drove beaters ever since. I was happy driving beaters, too, but now we are financially comfortable and I'm going to get my dream muscle car again. Originally it was going to Mustang but I'm not crazy about the look of the newer Mustangs and I'm too impatient to wait and see what the 50th anniversary one looks like. Regardless, I love the look of the new Camaros.

I've been approved for up to 42k through my credit union and could put some cash down too. I stopped by the dealer today and told them this is what I'm looking for:

Convertible 1SS (8 cyl)
Black exterior - no stripes
Manual transmission
Dual perf exhaust
RS package (do not 100% need)

On their site it puts it at just under $40k with cloth seats. I'm not big on leather so could care less.

What I'm looking for opinions on, guys, is if I can convince myself to go to a 6 cylinder. Initially I say hell no. This is my dream car / muscle car and I want what I want. I'm keeping a little tin can Aveo to commute in and as a spare, so gas mileage isn't a huge issue. However, I'm not going to speed in the thing. I know you are all laughing but believe me, I train truck drivers for a living and cannot afford to have a ticket, so I won't be speeding. With that being said, do I really need the 8 cylinder? I know I'll get more power and start off quicker, but what else is the 8 cylinder good for?

Anyway, I stopped by the dealership today and told them what I was looking for. They had one close to what I wanted but it was $43k. Leather seats, heated seats, and a few other things. No interest. They are doing a locate to see if they can find me a match. The guy said most of the 1SS cars are leather because if someone is paying upwards of $40k they want leather. I told him I don't. I'm pretty particular about features.

What do you guys think I have for wiggle room in negotiation on price? I've done pretty good my last few cars. And this time around I have financing so I can walk out the door pretty easily.

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Old 07-26-2013, 11:22 PM   #21
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I'll throw my hat in the ring... there are more features on a 2SS than just leather... with a stick shift, I absolutely LOVE my heads up display to keep track of my RPM's without ever taking my eyes off of traffic, and I dig the little retro gauge cluster in my console... that said, I paid 39,000 for my 2SS/RS with NPP Exhaust, Short Throw, polished wheels, stripes, embroidered center console and lighted cupholders / foot wells, so you should have ZERO problem finding a brand new one in your budget for less than mine since the lighted cupholder/footwell was $500, around $400 on the stripes, same for the wheels, $800 or so for the sunroof, etc... you get the idea. Either way, good luck in your search and as others have said, you may have to take a little drive to find exactly what you want.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:32 PM   #22
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I say its your money buy what you want, if you don't want leather then don't get it. I say order it from the factory if like what the 14's looks like if not might have to travel a bit to find exactly what you want but I doubt it black is a pretty popular color and so is rs package now you just have to find one that's not leather and a 6speed manual. And yes get the V8 over the V6 for two reasons, One it sounds better and two much more tq. off the line.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:48 AM   #23
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....without expending alot of rhetoric, may I suggest you do whatever is necessary to purchase a ZL1. You will be satisfied beyond measure for the rest of your life, unless you are a hard core experienced adrenaline junky and driver,... trust me when I say this car is the BEST Camaro you could ever own delivering satisfaction across all metrics beyond what any Camaro owner previously has ever experienced.
I wish. Truly. It's just way out of my price range, unfortunately.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:55 AM   #24
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Nearby dealer located one that is pretty close. It's basically: Convertible 1SS, Black exterior, cloth interior, RS package. Only thing missing is dual performance exhaust but if I can add that on later, perhaps I will. He said it was $40k and change; offered to me for $39,2. Math doesn't add up. I told him when I build it online, I can get exactly what I want (incl. dual perf exhaust) for an asking price of just under $40k. I asked him what extra it had that I didn't want. He didn't have a full list but said it had heated seats (don't care for it and don't want to pay for it).

I'm going to stop by in the morning and speak to him and see what we can do. I like to haggle and I'm in no rush. How much, realistically, can I expect to get off, though? I love throwing out the 'let me think about it' and then have them come back asking what it would take for me to buy the car today. Should be fun.

Dual perf. exhaust isn't a deal breaker, I suppose. I would just like it but can add it later. But I'm adamant about not paying extra for crap I don't need/want.

I did expand my search and found a few others nearby but black isn't as popular as I thought.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:04 AM   #25
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I wanted the v8 power and sound.....inferno orange with white stripes..2ss rs I could not be any happier, people are right, get what you want ...don't fall for the get the v6 and mod it stuff, get the v8 muscle that you want
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:12 AM   #26
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This one is closer to me...........

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Old 07-27-2013, 01:44 AM   #27
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Get the 2SS/RS with leather. You won't regret getting the V8 and all the nicer features. Treat yourself.
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Old 07-27-2013, 04:10 PM   #28
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The V6 is a great engine, but its not "Dream Car" material. For a 1LS daily driver, it's fine. For the 'Vert you've always wanted, get the V8 so that you don't have that tiny bit of regret every time you drive it. Before you purchase locally, talk to Becky on here or look around a bit at some other dealers before you pull the trigger to find the best deal.
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Old 07-27-2013, 04:30 PM   #29
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Initially, if you so not really need a convertible, I'd recommend a hardtop with a moon roof! And if you really can't stand the chatter of that's a V6 instead of V8 then get a V8. However, most people undermine the fact that most people won't race ever. So the V8 would just be a costlier investment. But however, it's up to you. For a Concertible 1SS You could actually get a 2SS/RS 1LE for the same price I believe. The convertible itself adds 7/8,000$ which to me isn't worth it but I've seen a lot of people unable to live without a convertible top so it's in the end really up to you. Don't let me influence your decision too much, because at the end of the day, it you who has to like it, not us. I hope this helped.
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Old 07-27-2013, 04:56 PM   #30
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If a dealer locates one I should be able to see it before 100% commiting, right? How does that work?
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Old 07-27-2013, 05:05 PM   #31
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It depends on where it's coming from. If it's coming in from out of state on a dealer trade from another dealer, you are likely going to have to commit first. If it is coming from another branch of the same dealer, you will have more ability to back out. If the car has (major) flaws upon delivery, then you can walk. A lot of this will depend on your dealer and salesperson, find a good one and they will be a LOT easier to deal with.

If you simply want to see the differences between trim levels, and or colors in person, you might have to settle for looking at coupes in person, and driving a couple of different vehicles (a manual trans Coupe, and then an automatic Vert, for example) to get a feel for the car. Not many 1SS manual trans cars out there to begin with, and adding convertible to the mix is going to make one that much harder to find.

The majority of verts that I've seen sitting on dealer lots are 2SS or 2LT autos.

I would find one on the internet, and go look at it in person, even if it's a couple of hours away.
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Old 07-27-2013, 05:08 PM   #32
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Get what want like they say bud I comprimised a bit summit white with flat black hockey decals first thing I didwas had removed and had inferno orange painted on with a synergy varation I came up with. I wanted a M6 but only one they had I got approved for was 1ss so I declined for the A6 2SS/RS (dot like atm but come winter I will was shot in left forarm by .223 a lot of hardware hurts bad during winter sometimes) I had to go used route for my first time around after I pay this off I plan on custom ordering a LE/RS that can decorate my garage except on weekends and ill keep driving my current one provided I have no suprizes in the next few years
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:44 PM   #33
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It depends on where it's coming from. If it's coming in from out of state on a dealer trade from another dealer, you are likely going to have to commit first. If it is coming from another branch of the same dealer, you will have more ability to back out. ...................

I would find one on the internet, and go look at it in person, even if it's a couple of hours away.

Ditto---I'd wan't to see the car in person before hand. Having purchased new cars more than a few times in the last 40 years, I've been pleased the majority of the time, but been dismayed by a few on what is passed off as a brand new car.
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Dave ..... Think 1SS 1LE.... Can be done for the $40K you're thinking (or less per some forum members that have supposedly done so...) A 323HP V6 is no slouch, but if your heart is thinking V8, better go with it if its in your budget so no regrets later.
We have a winner... I thought the exact same thing, if you want a value added v8, the 1LE is where you want to be.
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