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Old 08-06-2013, 10:58 AM   #26
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I've been left in the dark. Texas you say next year! I'm in! Time for more upgrades before May.
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:01 AM   #27
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Well the problem is they have to find venues large enough to hold the event. And I can't really think of any in the Pacific Northwest that would be suitable.
hrm... http://portlandraceway.com
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:02 AM   #28
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I don't know if it's posted somewhere but it would be interesting to see the attendance numbers of all 4 CamaroFest's
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:05 AM   #29
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Going to Texas for next year is just to far for those of us from Detroit. It's no big deal, since the only fair thing to do is to move it around the country from year to year to eventually give everyone a chance to attend this awesome event.

This year we had about 18 of us on our Camarovan down to Indy. Driving to Texas is a bit much for us, but we've already thought of pooling our money together to rent a car hauler for Texas. Then we could fly down, meet up with the cars and hit the fest.

Yes it would be more expensive, but if you figure the money we'd spend on gas driving both ways, plus the added cost of taking two days to get there, two days back with the hotel rooms needed just on the trip down & back along with the extra day we'd have to take off work, etc, it might not cost all that much more.

I've been to the Fest this year and last, and had an absolute ball both years.!!!

I want to thank EVERYONE involved with putting such an awesome event together. It takes a LOT of time and effort to do, and I thank you all for doing it.

Maybe, just maybe some year it'll come to the Motor City, DETROIT!
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:06 AM   #30
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Does that have a dragstrip?
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:09 AM   #31
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Does that have a dragstrip?
Yep http://portlandraceway.com/?/about/faq
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:10 AM   #32
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Going to Texas for next year is just to far for those of us from Detroit. It's no big deal, since the only fair thing to do is to move it around the country from year to year to eventually give everyone a chance to attend this awesome event.

This year we had about 18 of us on our Camarovan down to Indy. Driving to Texas is a bit much for us, but we've already thought of pooling our money together to rent a car hauler for Texas. Then we could fly down, meet up with the cars and hit the fest.

Yes it would be more expensive, but if you figure the money we'd spend on gas driving both ways, plus the added cost of taking two days to get there, two days back with the hotel rooms needed just on the trip down & back along with the extra day we'd have to take off work, etc, it might not cost all that much more.

I've been to the Fest this year and last, and had an absolute ball both years.!!!

I want to thank EVERYONE involved with putting such an awesome event together. It takes a LOT of time and effort to do, and I thank you all for doing it.

Maybe, just maybe some year it'll come to the Motor City, DETROIT!
Thanks and hope you re-consider and just fly down.

...and Thanks for the poster bids too.

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Old 08-06-2013, 11:14 AM   #33
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That is for sure one that I would not attend. Your talking about 3,000 miles one way for me. But it's only fare that the event moves around the country because Indy or texas would be a far drive for you unlike me
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:51 AM   #34
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The thing is you can't keep pissing off the same people year after year. The folks in the intermountain west, the west coast and the northwest have been left on the fringe for years now. Yes, moving to TX is further west but it's also further south. Even folks in San Diego still have a 20 hour drive and that gets worse as you move up the coast. San Francisco: 28 hrs, Portland, OR: 33 hrs. I mean really and I hear some complain about having to drive 3-4 hours

I think you're going to find more and more local events popping up because folks are just tired of being left out.
There's one of two things you can do, then:

1) Get together with your local Camaro club and go look for potential venues that can handle parking for 500+ cars, has a drag strip, and space for an autocross course and/or road course and also has space 30-ish vendors to set up and report your findings back to the Camaro5 staff.

2) Whine about it on an internet forum without any constructive feedback.



Edit: Sorry, I started my post before leaving for lunch and just got back to hit the post reply button. Looks like you're on the right track
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:52 AM   #35
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Man that's pretty far up in the corner of the country.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:30 PM   #36
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There is also Miller Motorsports Park http://millermotorsportspark.com ... Definitely could handle the crowd, vendors, etc. World-class road course. No drag strip though. Might be pricey to rent out... lots of events there. NHRA sanctioned strip is at Rocky Mountain Raceways 20 miles away. The local SCCA uses RMR as one of its venues for autox.

Also... Las Vegas Motor Speedway http://lvms.com

Can't help but think there would be something in Denver as well.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:48 PM   #37
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Yeah, that's the other thing. Price to rent the track for two or three days is a big factor.

I know that's what's keeping us from using Las Vegas Motor Speedway as well as Texas Motor Speedway. They're just way out of Camaro5's league right now. Maybe once the event grows some more it might be do-able, but to keep the admission prices reasonable those tracks are just not realistic.
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Old 08-06-2013, 01:35 PM   #38
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Old 08-06-2013, 02:17 PM   #39
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for those of you not aware of our previous track choices.

Vegas was near the top of our list... bottom line... toooo spensive... great facility but not in our price range unless we shared the facility with another event.

So we passed, not to say we won't try again...

AZ, In my opinion was the best of everything but we had unseasonably high temps (tied the record) on the day we were there... and Firebird is closed while the reservation works to hire new managment... so they're on the list but questionable.

CA... tracks in CA are ultra expensive to rent... and there are so many regulations and permits and wierd noise constraints that we aren't willing to risk it. Literally some of our cars would be too loud....

Pacific North west. This is going to sound harsh. but it's a numbers game... looking at sales numbers, that area has the lowest sales numbers and most tracks are very rural with no hotels near or big enough to accomodate us. Not that we won't ever go that way... but it's hard to justify at this time.

We have to have.

Big track to accomodate, parking, car show, CamaroCross (bigger than a AutoX) drag racing, vendors and hotels big enough and close enough for members to go back and forth over two days.

FWIW. Thats the big stuff...
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Old 08-06-2013, 02:18 PM   #40
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That is for sure one that I would not attend. Your talking about 3,000 miles one way for me. But it's only fare that the event moves around the country because Indy or texas would be a far drive for you unlike me
I drove from Ft Pierce, FL to Houston last December and it was 1000 miles each way.
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Oh... someone mentioned to me there may be a track in Co. that might work.....

I thought that was interesting...
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Old 08-06-2013, 02:30 PM   #42
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north, south, east, west, and middle on rotation 5 cities and five tracks... man how hard is that.... do i have to think of everything....
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north, south, east, west, and middle on rotation 5 cities and five tracks... man how hard is that.... do i have to think of everything....
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Trust me. I've been in Florida all my life. You should know that summer is horrible here. I understand why it's in early May. Good thinking there.
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north, south, east, west, and middle on rotation 5 cities and five tracks... man how hard is that.... do i have to think of everything....



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Old 08-06-2013, 03:04 PM   #45
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Oh... someone mentioned to me there may be a track in Co. that might work.....

I thought that was interesting...
That would be pretty sweet if there was a legit contender in the Colorado area. The scenery alone is worth the 950 mile (one-way) trip
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Old 08-06-2013, 03:13 PM   #46
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How about a road course event during festV at Motorsport Ranch?!!! It's about 60 miles out of Baytown and is just off the highway North of Angleton, TX?
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it was kind of funny. the week after CamaroFest here in AZ and the week before it was about 12 degrees cooler.
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Old 08-06-2013, 03:19 PM   #48
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How about a road course event during festV at Motorsport Ranch?!!! It's about 60 miles out of Baytown and is just off the highway North of Angleton, TX?
We had a sponsor hold an HPDE for C5F II in AZ. it worked well as it was on firebird property.. however it kept the vendors area low on traffic. as it was far enough away that it created an either or situation. it was an extra cost and was very popular...

However, at this point, unless the road course is at the same facility, we are less likely to consider it as part of the fest. And it would require a sponsor to take complete ownership of it, we don't have the resources to pull it off in addition to everything else we have to do.
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Take another run at Vegas. But Phoenix will be good too. It will re-open they just wanted to get rid of previous track management. Both Vegas and Phoenix have a road course.

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