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Old 08-07-2013, 10:14 PM   #18
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Often, 6 out of 10 events.
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:16 PM   #19
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Many GM parts store sells them, between $1000 to $1500 plus installation ($300) plus alignment ($114)
I have been told that you need part # 20942237 newer rear lower control arms to install on a 2010-11? Was this the case?
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:33 PM   #20
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I have been told that you need part # 20942237 newer rear lower control arms to install on a 2010-11? Was this the case?
Yes. It comes included in the package. See picture in my first post.
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:48 PM   #21
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That's what I thought, but some vendors description of the package don't match the picture. Looking forward to your write up on the track pack. I've been contemplating getting one, but was waiting for someone to install and review. Thanks.
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:18 AM   #22
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Often, 6 out of 10 events.
You need to find a better group of drivers to run with This happens ...but 60% of the is too often!

AND....Review???
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:21 AM   #23
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One image speak for a thousand words. Here's 15 minutes of 30 frames per second...

https://t.co/ZJ1bpZ3sKK
Are those speeds in MPH or KPH?
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:58 AM   #24
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Okay so here is my maiden track voyage review.

My initial feeling is where the OEM SS suspension limited the car in braking & turn ins & outs, now it’s the Tires that limits it.

There is just not enough of it to match the 1LE suspension. I feel that it needs more rear rubbers with the 1LE, I'm dealing with a lot more snap oversteer out of each corner in 2nd gear now. It might have been because of cold tires but when hot, it still feels like the back is not following the front like it did before turning in. I'm running square setup 275/40R20 Nitto NT05.

The car is a lot more tight everywhere, I can get in an apex faster and come out faster but I need more time to feel assured and knowing the limits. Where I could dump the throttle just coming out of the Apex, now I need to muster it or wait to finish the turn out to dump it or stay in 3rd to avoid it.

The front sway bars works very well. No more lift or let’s say 50% less of it. Same with lateral movement, It’s greatly reduced. The front end bites so much more now, it’s going to be fun to attack the Brake In zone into the Apex. The limits has been raise quite a lot, near 25 % of stiffness.

I have run over a few humps and the car is a lot less upset, the damping takes good take of it. Before I was moving a lot more up and down and the suspension just couldn’t carry the speed anymore where now; you are gliding over it.

I feel that, I was not able to improve track times because it’s really a new car, different and need to learn it’s limits again. Off course with a bit more track time we will tell the whole story.

I think the 2013 1LE track success is mostly because of the wider wheels and gripper tires.

With 1LE track pack:


OEM SS suspension:
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:16 AM   #25
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You need to find a better group of drivers to run with This happens ...but 60% of the is too often!

AND....Review???
I'm attending 3 different clubs. I was stating that fact in general.
Most accidents are minor but in the Advanced group, Guys with a lot of experience are pushing it too much and crash harder.
Last Tuesday, It was a guy with 7 years of track experience driving a friend's Prosche with his girlfriend aboard... bad combination. 3 weeks ago an experienced porsche club member died at LCMT, 39 years old in front of his wife and kids.
It's a dangerous sport.
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:31 AM   #26
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Cant wait to get mine installed next week. Got mine at Camaro5 Fest. $1280 plus free shipping to my dealer and Free installation. Thanks GM! I already have the 3.91 and factory ZL1 5 spokes and tires. Should make a world of difference.
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:36 AM   #27
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Cant wait to get mine installed next week. Got mine at Camaro5 Fest. $1280 plus free shipping to my dealer and Free installation. Thanks GM! I already have the 3.91 and factory ZL1 5 spokes and tires. Should make a world of difference.
WOW! That was a great deal! congrats That will complete your car. those 3 items working together with the ZL1 short throw shifter is the 1LE for our 2010-2012 model.
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:44 AM   #28
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No. except one minor detail, you need to open up the 10mm hole to attach the 12mm front sway bar link bolt.
Why did you have to open the hole, i swapped to the 1LE suspension too, the sway bar was already opened up and the 1LE struts are opened up too, the only ones you need to open up are the standard struts, are you sure they installed the 1LE struts?
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:50 AM   #29
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Why did you have to open the hole, i swapped to the 1LE suspension too, the sway bar was already opened up and the 1LE struts are opened up too, the only ones you need to open up are the standard struts, are you sure they installed the 1LE struts?
Let me confirm with my mechanic.
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:33 AM   #30
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Mike, I had another thought about why your car has a new issue with snap oversteer. Any chance that the alignment may be off, with the new set up? Maybe they didn't properly torque the fasteners and it moved? I remember reading the Motor Trend Viper Vs. ZR1 review, where the Viper was very difficult on the track. They found out later that the alignment was way off. When they returned to the track with the alignment corrected, it drove like a vastly improved car and shaved seconds off of it's lap time.
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Old 08-09-2013, 12:40 PM   #31
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Let me confirm with my mechanic.
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Sycraft is correct.
My mechanic did not have to widen the strut hole to 12mm. The 1LE kit has the right fit. My mistake. Sorry.
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Old 08-09-2013, 12:55 PM   #32
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Why did you have to open the hole, i swapped to the 1LE suspension too, the sway bar was already opened up and the 1LE struts are opened up too, the only ones you need to open up are the standard struts, are you sure they installed the 1LE struts?
2010 vs 2012?
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:04 PM   #33
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Mike, I had another thought about why your car has a new issue with snap oversteer. Any chance that the alignment may be off, with the new set up? Maybe they didn't properly torque the fasteners and it moved? I remember reading the Motor Trend Viper Vs. ZR1 review, where the Viper was very difficult on the track. They found out later that the alignment was way off. When they returned to the track with the alignment corrected, it drove like a vastly improved car and shaved seconds off of it's lap time.
I also wondered if maybe some part of the new components came loose. I do not have much suspension experience, but it seemed to make some sense. I find this thread very interesting.
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:51 PM   #34
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Sycraft is correct.
My mechanic did not have to widen the strut hole to 12mm. I had the right fit. My mistake. Sorry.
Mike, can you confirm with your mechanic how he attached the rear sway bar links to your lower control arms? There is apparently a difference between the 2010-11 and '12 and newer lower control arms where the rear sway bar links attach. This is why some people are telling me I need newer model lower control arms. What is pictured in the kit photo are the newer toe links. Thanks.
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