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Old 08-08-2011, 03:01 PM   #1
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Question Upgrade brake lines?

I'm going to be taking my calipers off for painting. Since they will be off, I am tossing around upgrading the bake lines. . I do 1-2 track days a year. . . Not a lot as you can see...

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Old 08-08-2011, 03:02 PM   #2
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SS brake lines will give you a better feel when braking, but I wouldn't consider them necessary if you are only tracking a few times a year.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:17 PM   #3
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A good set of stainless steel brake lines will definitely improve brake performance and feel on and off the track.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:20 PM   #4
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As long as the calipers are coming off the car and lines are in your budget, there isn't a reason not to do them. Quality lines and quality fluid will be a nice performance upgrade to complement your cosmetic upgrade.
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:25 PM   #5
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Agreed, if your already there, put some stainless steel lines on.

They definitely help on the track, but they also help a lot on the road, with shorter stopping distances and a steadier brake pedal, since the steel lines won't expand like the stock rubber lines do.
In an ABS stop, you won't get nearly the pulsation from the ABS motor as you do with stock lines.

Even if you never see the track, they're a great idea for safety, the extra few feet you get in a panic stop may be the difference between life and death for yourself, or the person in front of you...

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I was considering putting on some red lines. Thoughts on ebay red lines?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2010-...#ht_1470wt_939
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:12 PM   #7
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also, what kind of dot 5 fluid do you recommend?
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Old 08-09-2011, 04:12 PM   #8
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also, what kind of dot 5 fluid do you recommend?
The eBay brake lines look good, but the price point is so low it makes you wonder about quality.

I am a huge fan of Motul RBF 660 DOT 4 Racing Brake Fluid. It is expensive, but it has an exceptionally high boiling point and has been the gold standard in racing for years.

Finally, when you change out your fluid take it to a shop with a Tech II unit and use the 2010 Corvette bleed cycle. This will cycle the abs pump to flush out the old fluid.
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I second the Motul fluid, its good stuff!

Yeah, Idunno about those eBay lines, they do look good, but who knows...

After their shipping cost, you could spend just a few dollars more, and we can get you some good quality Goodridge lines shipped, (they're in stock). The Goodridge lines are the only true DOT approved stainless steel lines available for our cars.
We also have the Motul RBF 660 fluid in stock, with free shipping too if ordered with the lines.

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Old 08-09-2011, 05:04 PM   #10
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I would stay away from DOT 5 fluid as most seals are not going to be compatible with the silicone based fluid.

DOT3, DOT4 are going to cover most of the race fluids on the market. The Motul RBF 600 has been one of the best fluids on the market to date and a very good upgrade from the factory fluid on both dry and wet boiling points.

Stainless lines are also a good upgrade as well. Not only from the heat protection (if the calipers get that hot), but also on pedal feel. The stainless lines also have less flex and are generally a smaller diameter line so it becomes more of a signal line giving you a quicker response time from the pedal to the caliper.

We carry the StopTech brand of lines for our cars here at the shop.
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:46 PM   #11
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Finally, when you change out your fluid take it to a shop with a Tech II unit and use the 2010 Corvette bleed cycle. This will cycle the abs pump to flush out the old fluid.
I have a "one-man" brake bleeder that uses vacuum to draw the air/fluid out...is this safe and effective on the 5th-gen brake system?

http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/tools/specialty+tools/one-person+brake+bleeder.do

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I have a "one-man" brake bleeder that uses vacuum to draw the air/fluid out...is this safe and effective on the 5th-gen brake system?

http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/tools/specialty+tools/one-person+brake+bleeder.do

It will work to bleed out the calipers, but it will not cycle the abs pump. The only way to do that in a shop is with a TECH II tool. There a a lot of 5th Gen owners that use the a one man bleeder and are satisfied with the results. I am very particular about suspension, wheels, tires and brakes because my driver's life and my family's lives depend on them.

Once you have changed over your fluid, including the abs pump, the one man bleeder for maintenance will do a good job. The first time through, especially with brake fluids that specifically state not to mix with other fluids, the only right way to do it is with a full TECH II bleed.

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Gotcha. I have access to a Tech II via a buddy...I guess it's time to call in a favor.
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Gotcha. I have access to a Tech II via a buddy...I guess it's time to call in a favor.
Gee,and who would this buddy be? Buddy
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Anyone know of a place in San Antonio to get the Tech II abs flush done? I am in the process of doing my brakes and want to flush my fluid with the motol rbf stuff...
I'd rather not take it to the dealer... =[ they're a pain in the ass to work with.
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Anyone know of a place in San Antonio to get the Tech II abs flush done? I am in the process of doing my brakes and want to flush my fluid with the motol rbf stuff...
I'd rather not take it to the dealer... =[ they're a pain in the ass to work with.
You don't need to flash anything. Just keep fluid in it as you're bleeding the system and you're golden! I generally turn the key to the on position but you defiantly don't need a tech II.. You'll flush 2.5 to 3 pints through it to get everything out. Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions.

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There are only two ways to bleed an ABS pump on a 5th Gen. Without the TECH II you can bleed the system well then drive on a gravel road and stomp on the brakes a few times and then do another bleed and repeat. Or you can cycle it with the TECH II and do it on the rack. I am aware of no other methods, but am willing to learn if there is one.
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There are only two ways to bleed an ABS pump on a 5th Gen. Without the TECH II you can bleed the system well then drive on a gravel road and stomp on the brakes a few times and then do another bleed and repeat. Or you can cycle it with the TECH II and do it on the rack. I am aware of no other methods, but am willing to learn if there is one.
In terms of flushing the ABS pump you are 100% correct however the amount of fluid left in the pump is very minimal at best. If the fluids weren't compatible I would be concerned but Motul RBF-600 is a DOT 4 and is compatible with the factory fluid. We generally flush the calipers after every track event as well which means after the initial flush it will have better fluid as 99% of us will come into ABS on the track. This opens the installation of brake lines up to a much broader range of people and although you're not getting 100% of the fluid out initially it has never been a problem.

I'm a very anal person and I do everything the right way even if it takes me longer. I don't think getting the less than 1% of fluid out of the ABS pump is critical however as proven in my own car.

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Not intending to hi-jack, but I upgraded to DBA rotors in the front and PowerSlots in the rear. I know, not the best but I got a good deal on a lightly used set. At the same time, I upgraded to Hawk HPS pads. Last time at the track I had brake fade toward the end of the HPDE sessions. Never had issues with stock brake setup and ATE fluid. Already planning on Motul RBF 660 fluid. What pads should I go with for dedicated track use?
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