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Old 01-30-2013, 09:52 AM   #1
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--RELEASE-- Camaro ZL1 Racing pads from LG Motorsports and Cobalt



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LG Motorsports is proud to bring you Cobalt Racing Technology pads for your Camaro ZL1

If you are going to be tracking your new Camaro ZL1 you will need a better pad on the car than the OEM equipment. For those tracks hard on brakes as well as experienced drivers are going to find the factory brake pads are just not up to the task of repeated hard use of the brake pedal.

We at LG Motorsports have chosen the best for our own race cars with Cobalt Friction Technologies (Cobalt Racing Brakes) brake pads. We have been using Cobalt pads on our own race cars since 2006 and have not used anything else on them since! Easy on rotors, great initial bite, and awesome wear rates make them the best pads on the market today.

We have fitments for the SS, ZL1, OEM Corvette brakes as well as almost any other aftermarket BBK kit on the market today. Talk to your sales rep for details on what compounds would be right for your setup.
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Are they high met or low met linings? Any quick information on them as far as temperature etc.? I am thinking of going to Carbotechs since those I have experience with but heard about these from a few guys, have you guys ever used Carbotechs?
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Are they high met or low met linings? Any quick information on them as far as temperature etc.? I am thinking of going to Carbotechs since those I have experience with but heard about these from a few guys, have you guys ever used Carbotechs?
Every person I have changed over to Cobalt from Carbotech pads as never EVER asked for CarboTech's again.

Temp and torque curves change depending on compound...
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Some video from COTA this weekend.

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I'm looking to upgrade from my Hawk HP-Plus pads that I swap out for racing. My friend runs the Cobalts on his Z06 and told me to check them out.

What Colbalt pad combo is recommended for a suspension modded 2010 SS for mixed auto-x and track use. I'd like to go a bit agressive without excessive wear on the rotors.

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I'm looking to upgrade from my Hawk HP-Plus pads that I swap out for racing. My friend runs the Cobalts on his Z06 and told me to check them out.

What Colbalt pad combo is recommended for a suspension modded 2010 SS for mixed auto-x and track use. I'd like to go a bit agressive without excessive wear on the rotors.

Can you please PM me pricing also?

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I would run XR1's on the front and XR3's on the rear....that is what we had on Lou's ZL1 when we went to COTA (see the testing video).


Some of the great things about Cobalt is the great wear rates, bite when they are cold and excellent pedal modulation. Hell of a pad, I don't think you would ever go back to Hawks again for track work.

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Thanks Anthony,

I do a lot more auto-x than track, will this setup be good?

I noticed that your website didn't have the XR3 pads listed for the Gen5 Camaro application.
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Thanks Anthony,

I do a lot more auto-x than track, will this setup be good?

I noticed that your website didn't have the XR3 pads listed for the Gen5 Camaro application.
Still working on more updates to the site for the added pads


Yes, again that is one of the great things about Cobalts is their ability to grip when they are cold more so than a lot of other pads.
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Still working on more updates to the site for the added pads


Yes, again that is one of the great things about Cobalts is their ability to grip when they are cold more so than a lot of other pads.
The sooner you can get the website updated, the sooner I can order them.
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The sooner you can get the website updated, the sooner I can order them.
Sorry guys....been in the shop on this thing... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200908

Should have it up here by the end of the week.
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I dont see them on there.
Check your PM's....forum rules do not allow me to post links to the site or pricing in the tech sections.
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How is it that these don't fade on the track if their temp ratings are only 50-1000 according to your website?

Hell the Carbotech XP-8 temp range is 200F-1350F+ and I use these on the rear and XP-12 on the front with a temp range of 250F to 2000F+. Not to mention these are much more expensive than the CarboTech's. Even if you spend the extra money to have them pre-bedded.

So how are these better??

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How is it that these don't fade on the track if their temp ratings are only 50-1000 according to your website?

Hell the Carbotech XP-8 temp range is 200F-1350F+ and I use these on the rear and XP-12 on the front with a temp range of 250F to 2000F+. Not to mention these are much more expensive than the CarboTech's. Even if you spend the extra money to have them pre-bedded.

So how are these better??

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They run to a much higher temp than the CarboTech pads do, and depending on what compound you run with what that will be. It sounds like you are quoting the CSR compound which is more of a street/AutoX pad. Not the XR1/2/3 pads that we race with that will hold well over 1800 degree's.

There is more to pads than just temperature ranges. Sure that helps but how the pad handles the heat, it's coefficient of friction, release, wear characteristics all play important roles in how the car is going to bit on initial pedal input, torque applied to the rotor, and finally how the pad releases when you come off the pedal.

Some pads may have a very low bite, but a high torque ramp, some stick when you pull your foot off the pedal....some my bite really hard then fade away.

Then you get into how the pad wears itself combined with the rotor wear.

Cobalts require no bedding at all, just the first bed to the rotor, other than that you can hot swap pads on the same rotor and be good for green flag racing from the get go.


EVERY, and I mean EVERY SINGLE customer I have let try a set of Cobalts has never looked back to anything, be it Hawk, CarboTech, PFC...they are that good of a pad not only in performance but wear as well.

Take a look at just some of the teams that have ran Cobalts and continue to win with them. Everything from the GS class in GrandAm to the Daytona Prototypes and ALMS GT cars. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...6647351&type=3
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Thank you.

The temps regarding the Cobalts are straight off of your website, and in Hindsight yes CSR, but they were the only temps available since Cobalt's website does not list them.

I am aware that there is more to a pad than temps and it was only a starting point to get more information regarding these pads.

Do you have any non-teams that run these that could possibly chime in? Teams have a tendency to be sponsored so they have more at stake.

Do you carry the full line? Your website only lists the CSR, XR1 and XR2. Based on Cobalt's website and the Carbo's I have run in the past I would run XR2 F and XR3 R.

Would the pads last longer if I went up to the XR1 F, XR2 R? Or would these just be overkill and eat up my DBA 4000's?

As someone who has experienced pad failure on a track at high speeds I am VERY leery of switching from something I KNOW works. I will never use Hawks on a track again. Overheated pads on these heavy cars is a real possibility on the faster tracks that I run, Road America for example.

As far as cold bite that is great for the street but I am patient enough to wait half a lap for my pads to warm up to operating temps to get the full measure of the pads.

As far as the pricing, if it is different than your website maybe you could pm me.

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Thank you.

The temps regarding the Cobalts are straight off of your website, and in Hindsight yes CSR, but they were the only temps available since Cobalt's website does not list them.

I am aware that there is more to a pad than temps and it was only a starting point to get more information regarding these pads.

Do you have any non-teams that run these that could possibly chime in? Teams have a tendency to be sponsored so they have more at stake.

Do you carry the full line? Your website only lists the CSR, XR1 and XR2. Based on Cobalt's website and the Carbo's I have run in the past I would run XR2 F and XR3 R.

Would the pads last longer if I went up to the XR1 F, XR2 R? Or would these just be overkill and eat up my DBA 4000's?

As someone who has experienced pad failure on a track at high speeds I am VERY leery of switching from something I KNOW works. I will never use Hawks on a track again. Overheated pads on these heavy cars is a real possibility on the faster tracks that I run, Road America for example.

As far as cold bite that is great for the street but I am patient enough to wait half a lap for my pads to warm up to operating temps to get the full measure of the pads.

As far as the pricing, if it is different than your website maybe you could pm me.

T.

You are right, teams do tend to stick with their sponsors and Andie did give us a free set here or there, but he does not sponsor anyone full time. All of us have to pay for the pads. While, it is nice to hear from the local club racer on how something works, putting these things into turn one at Daytona during the 24hrs at close to 200 mph for hours on end is something far past what most would ever ask for their pads to do, and Cobalt has done it time and time again.

There are a few things out there that actually work as good as, if not better than what they say they do. This is one of those products.


Pad life is going to depend on swept area, temperature, car weight, and use of course. You wouldn't expect the pads to last as long at Long Beach as what you would say Road Atlanta just because of how much you are on the pedal vs straight away speeds.

From testing with the SS and the ZL1 we have found the XR1 front and XR3 rears seem to work the best.
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LG Motorsports is proud to bring you Cobalt Racing Technology pads for your Camaro ZL1

If you are going to be tracking your new Camaro ZL1 you will need a better pad on the car than the OEM equipment. For those tracks hard on brakes as well as experienced drivers are going to find the factory brake pads are just not up to the task of repeated hard use of the brake pedal.

We at LG Motorsports have chosen the best for our own race cars with Cobalt Friction Technologies (Cobalt Racing Brakes) brake pads. We have been using Cobalt pads on our own race cars since 2006 and have not used anything else on them since! Easy on rotors, great initial bite, and awesome wear rates make them the best pads on the market today.

We have fitments for the SS, ZL1, OEM Corvette brakes as well as almost any other aftermarket BBK kit on the market today. Talk to your sales rep for details on what compounds would be right for your setup.
Are there any ceramic pads or low brake dust pads that will work on the Zl1 yet maintain the performance level?
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Are there any ceramic pads or low brake dust pads that will work on the Zl1 yet maintain the performance level?
Cobalt doesn't make any low dust, or ceramic pads.

I do not know of any iron rotor setup that would be quiet, no dust, and stop like a race pad.

The Carbon/Ceramic setup on the ZR1's is the closest thing I know of that will do that.
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I use the Cobalt Friction XR1 & XR3 in my car and can vouch for how awesome they are. Can you pm me with a price please I need a new set of XR1's
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It's hard to explain over the net just how big of a difference a great set of pads can make to a braking system on the cars. We have been trusting no one but Cobalt now for years!
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Like Tbone I too have experienced brake failure while roaring into a corner. I agree that it is hard to let go of something that is working well for me. I'm using the Porterfield R4 pad now and have never experienced anything that stops better. The downside is one set of pads will eat about 2 sets of rotors. I have always been willing to buy new rotors just to have the dependable braking. Do you know how Cobalts compare to the Porterfields for torque and heat range?
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I am a novice at running a road course. I've done 1 HPDE day at Gingerman and a couple Autocross sessions. My question is would these be overkill for a novice with stock rotors? Will they eat the stock rotors quickly? What would be the next step for me without spending a lot of money? I was told to use the stock SS rotors and pads for now but my next time out will be in the intermediate group so I want to have some degree of confidence in my braking!
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I am a novice at running a road course. I've done 1 HPDE day at Gingerman and a couple Autocross sessions. My question is would these be overkill for a novice with stock rotors? Will they eat the stock rotors quickly? What would be the next step for me without spending a lot of money? I was told to use the stock SS rotors and pads for now but my next time out will be in the intermediate group so I want to have some degree of confidence in my braking!

I wouldn't run the pads as a daily driver just due to the dust, noise, and cost.

Now with that being said....

Having the best track pads, fluids, lines...is all a matter of safety. You can more than work your way into those pads on track and they will never fade on you and will stop the car far before you reach that late of a braking point on track.

Some say it is easier to learn on crappy tires and crappy brakes, because if you can drive that.....well you can drive pretty much anything, but it isn't quite as safe to do so. I would much rather see someone go out on a street tire with a good set of brakes, rather than slicks with stock brakes on it.



First things first though...stainless lines and good quality brake fluid and make sure the fluid stays fresh!
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I wouldn't run the pads as a daily driver just due to the dust, noise, and cost.

Now with that being said....

Having the best track pads, fluids, lines...is all a matter of safety. You can more than work your way into those pads on track and they will never fade on you and will stop the car far before you reach that late of a braking point on track.

Some say it is easier to learn on crappy tires and crappy brakes, because if you can drive that.....well you can drive pretty much anything, but it isn't quite as safe to do so. I would much rather see someone go out on a street tire with a good set of brakes, rather than slicks with stock brakes on it.



First things first though...stainless lines and good quality brake fluid and make sure the fluid stays fresh!
I have RB stainless brake lines and dot 4 fluid already but i will need to flush with fresh fluid before next outing. What dot 4 do you recommend?
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