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Old 09-03-2013, 12:37 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Beyond 2020 Vision - GM Design Center (w/ Bumblebee Camaro Cameo)

Frank Saucedo is Director of Advanced Design for GM in southern California. His team is working on the cars of the future. He said, "We're trying to look out past 2020." Check out the video to see why Saucedo believes California gives a better perspective on what future automobile buyers will want.

Oh, and the newest iteration of Bumblebee Camaro makes several cameos.


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Old 09-03-2013, 12:46 PM   #2
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Dodger Stadium offramp makes an appearance too
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:51 PM   #3
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Some of those comments at the end were ridiculous. "I want a car you can drive out on the road". O K!
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:57 PM   #4
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Oh how I wish the 2014 rear would have been designed like this. Much better license plate and diffuser area.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:17 PM   #5
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The comments illustrate that most buyers don't know what they want...
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:25 PM   #6
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I wonder what software they're using that generates the perspective views...
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I also hope they aren't seriously making design decisions based on the people they were interviewing in the last seconds of the clip.

I mean like.... you know like.... like..... I want a car that's like.... you know?

Wow.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:37 PM   #7
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May be looking at what is to come with the 6th gen camaro.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:49 PM   #8
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that rear end looks soooo much better than the 2014!
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How about" I want a car with a SOUL. One that you can't walk past without wishing you were out on a canyon road going through the gears."
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that rear end looks soooo much better than the 2014!
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:07 PM   #11
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Not buying the "California thing" and it puts a pretty nasty taste in my mouth. There are people designing awesome cars all around the world. General Motors just has to find them and pay them to keep them. Where they work doesn't matter.
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:23 PM   #12
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Not buying the "California thing" and it puts a pretty nasty taste in my mouth. There are people designing awesome cars all around the world. General Motors just has to find them and pay them to keep them. Where they work doesn't matter.

I found it ironic that he clams that Californians are innovative yet each person interview listed no features or common ones.
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:28 PM   #13
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Oh how I wish the 2014 rear would have been designed like this. Much better license plate and diffuser area.
I agree 100%
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At first I thought 2020 that is ridiculous... then I remember it is less than 7 years out.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:30 PM   #15
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California car culture for the win !

Yes I'm from California by the way.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:34 PM   #16
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can we please just have a real muscle car GM... Not this futuristic space ship crap.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:13 PM   #17
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I got a statement for the gm customer service rep that makes an appearance here every so often. Ask questions from actual car gurus not like those tools at the end of that video! those are the people that would drive a campbells soup can with wheels as long as they cant text and play music.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:30 PM   #18
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can we please just have a real muscle car GM... Not this futuristic space ship crap.
I've been working on that. Putting my design ideas in a thread:

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Old 09-03-2013, 07:56 PM   #19
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After seeing that video, im glad i have a current gen camaro. IMO the futuristic designs are just falling farther away from the muscle car heritage. Not to mention what factory engine options will be available by 2020...
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You know, here is a crazy thought. Maybe.. just maybe... the majority of buyers are NOT car people. Calm down everyone. Those people at the end of the video are your average car buyer.

WE are not your average car buyers. The majority of people cannot tell the difference between a LT/SS/ZL1/Z28 except if it has a giant label on it. Even then they don't know what's inside.

GM designs, along with the majority of the other manufactures, for their target audience, not the niche few of us. While they try to appease everyone they just can't. So they put out a few amazing vehicles like the ZL1 and ZR1 etc to appease us. But the majority of their sales are to people who want something that looks good, drives good, and plays music.
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:19 PM   #21
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Not buying the "California thing" and it puts a pretty nasty taste in my mouth. There are people designing awesome cars all around the world. General Motors just has to find them and pay them to keep them. Where they work doesn't matter.
You are so right!!
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:23 PM   #22
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How about" I want a car with a SOUL. One that you can't walk past without wishing you were out on a canyon road going through the gears."
Amen! That's exactly why I bought my Camaro!

Do you think the new vette has soul? I think it does. It's a very modern soul, but still soul!!!
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:32 PM   #23
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Regarding the video, I can't imagine that the Camaro appearance is accidental. I think GM is testing the waters by floating out the new design, in order to see how we react. I think they did the same thing with first Transformers movie. Seems like a brilliant way to accumulate interest and pre-orders.

Unfortunately, I don't think they'll see a very positive reaction to the new Bumble Bee.

Just my thoughts
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:49 PM   #24
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I'm so proud to own a 5th gen! And as my first car to. So happy I didn't go with the Lancer Evo. No offense tuners!
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Oh how I wish the 2014 rear would have been designed like this. Much better license plate and diffuser area.
They did, kind of. Its the Z/28 rear.

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