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Old 09-04-2013, 10:11 PM   #26
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Salesman - " Haven't heard that one, let me talk to my manager?"
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Buyer - " Yea, there is as a matter of fact...just promise me you will never call me and I promise I won't tell anybody what a bunch of moron's you guys are. "
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:28 PM   #27
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When I ordered my 1LE, the dealer did not know what I was asking for. So we sat down to his computer and I walked him through the ordering of my new car. Unless your lucky enough to have a 'gearhead' dealer, you the customer are likely to know more than they do when it come to the 1LE package. I haven't ridden my bike to work a single time since I picked up my car, 3 months and I still have not worn the "NEW" off of it. Hence the term: PERMAGRIN.
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:55 PM   #28
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I was talking to a dealer today and he said he didn't see 1LE listed as an option for 2014 although he knew what it was. The build page on chevy's website still says 2013. Not sure what's going on but there are 2014 1LE's out there obviously.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:13 AM   #29
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I know this is not technically 100% true but I describe it as a ZL1 without the blower.
No. It's not anything like a zl1.


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Old 09-05-2013, 12:22 AM   #30
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Go to Chevy.com. Build an SS camaro. Check the performance package option. Voila. 1LE.

Dealers don't know about these because they often don't order them. Customer have to order them unless you can find some floating around the country.

The 1Le had specific gears, steering wheel, Tremec 6060 shifter, wheels, tires stretched on larger back wheels and suspension & handling mods plus monotube rear dampers. It's a track car.

Watch this and show your Stealer.

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Old 09-05-2013, 02:19 AM   #31
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No. It's not anything like a zl1.


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Actually yes it is. It has several similarities. For the average person who is not well versed in Camaros its a good way to describe it since alot of the upgrades are sourced or inspired from the ZL1. Its not a ZL1 but to say it isnt ANYTHING LIKE a ZL1 is incorrect:

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...amaro-1le-news

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Old 09-05-2013, 02:22 AM   #32
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GM lists the option on the window sticker as SS Performance Package.

Was a litttle perturbed though that the op didnt know how to find this info, sure there isnt a big published release on the 14 like there was with the 13 but the 13 press release is still relavant and is at the top of the 1LE section, I mean you cant miss it if you tried. Sorry for my rant.
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Old 09-05-2013, 02:53 AM   #33
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What is a Camaro 1LE?

Camaro Badassery package that for $3500 turns an ordinary Camaro SS into butt cheek clinching, teeth clinching, ear to ear grinning pleasure after said owner realizes Chevy should be charging hellofaton more for such badassery.

That is a 1LE.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:40 PM   #34
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On the 2013 and 2014 Mustang you can add an option called the track pack. Its as close to a 1LE equivalent as you're going to get since they canned the Boss 302 for 2014 (The Boss 302 is also much more expensive than a 1LE). Its a performance package only available on the 6 speed, just like the 1LE. Also, if you are searching on Autotrader, just search on a camaro, then go into the advanced section and add 1LE as a keyword and you will find all the 1LE's for sale on Autotrader.
1LE doesn't always find all cars....on cars.com use 'performance package' and match on exact phrase
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:56 PM   #35
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Go to Chevy.com. Build an SS camaro. Check the performance package option. Voila. 1LE.

Dealers don't know about these because they often don't order them. Customer have to order them unless you can find some floating around the country.

The 1Le had specific gears, steering wheel, Tremec 6060 shifter, wheels, tires stretched on larger back wheels and suspension & handling mods plus monotube rear dampers. It's a track car.

Watch this and show your Stealer.

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that probably would be me.. sadly... i just look good.
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:04 PM   #36
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Why have your dealer search for a car? Just have the dealer order one.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:11 AM   #37
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Yes it is.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:31 AM   #38
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Yes it is.
Don't kid yourself... the technology in the zl1 is far beyond what is available for any SS from any vendor.

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Old 09-07-2013, 12:50 AM   #39
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People at the dealer mistake my car for a ZL1 all the time. :-)
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:12 AM   #40
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Why have your dealer search for a car? Just have the dealer order one.
+1 I would've ordered mine, but I was abit too late to order a 2013
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:16 AM   #41
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I found one!

I went to my local dealer back in May and they didn't know what it was either. After weeks of searching the Chevy website I found one that had just come off the truck at another dealer, and even they did not know what it was. I traded in my 2010 2SS and never looked back. Let me tell you, this is twice the car that my old bumble bee was. Granted the old one was an automatic, but the 1LE is a wicked ride. I have a buddy that is a motorcycle cop in Huntington Beach, and he had never even seen one before. I'm holding on to this car, it is going to be worth something someday.

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Old 09-07-2013, 01:27 AM   #42
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I went to my local dealer back in May and they didn't know what it was either. After weeks of searching the Chevy website I found one that had just come off the truck at another dealer, and even they did not know what it was. I traded in my 2010 2SS and never looked back. Let me tell you, this is twice the car that my old bumble bee was. Granted the old one was an automatic, but the 1LE is a wicked ride. I have a buddy that is a motorcycle cop in Huntington Beach, and he had never even seen one before. I'm holding on to this car, it is going to be worth something someday.

Beautiful, congrats but where's your front splitter?

oh and I agree that these will be worth money one day. but its gonna be damn hard to keep miles off of it.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:19 AM   #43
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Don't kid yourself... the technology in the zl1 is far beyond what is available for any SS from any vendor.

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Again, we are not saying its a zl1 but his ridiculous statement that it isnt anything like a zl1 is absurd. Almost every upgrade on the 1le is taken from the zl1! It does have numerous similarities to the zl1....same fuel pump, wheels, tires from front. Shifter, steering wheel, toe links, rear shocks, wheel bearings, transmission coolong system and numerous others. The list goes on. It is LIKE a zl1.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:47 AM   #44
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Again, we are not saying its a zl1 but his ridiculous statement that it isnt anything like a zl1 is absurd. Almost every upgrade on the 1le is taken from the zl1! It does have numerous similarities to the zl1....same fuel pump, wheels, tires from front. Shifter, steering wheel, toe links, rear shocks, wheel bearings, transmission coolong system and numerous others. The list goes on. It is LIKE a zl1.
Not sure why having an awesome 1LE equipped SS Camaro is not enough.

It is not like a zl1... they are both Camaros and are both cars and I am sure that all Camaros share hundreds of parts... but the talk that an SS with the 1LE is in the same league as a zl1 because there are shared parts or is like a zl1 is


Can't believe we are having this discussion again. The real point is that the SS with the 1LE stands on its own for what it is but again it is not like the zl1.... which is in an entirely different class. It would be like saying that the LS is like the SS... again

I don't expect your mind to change but at least you might get your facts honed..

read some more... you almost have it.... here start here it requires no reading... watch and listen with an open mind... especially around 2:20




And here.... what do they the zl1 guys get for their $16,000 above an SS with 1LE?




This is also VERY useful... main difference... we the 1LE guys don't have a track day warranty the zl1 is in a different class...



SS 8:20
zl1 7:40
1LE 8:00 ish IMO

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Old 09-07-2013, 03:02 AM   #45
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"Like" is defined as having similarities. Ive outlined them above. Were beating a dead horse. It definitely is "like" a zl1 without the blower. Again, ive listed similarities above. I never said it was a zl1.
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Old 09-07-2013, 03:07 AM   #46
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you win I give... the zl1 is like the corvette

Edit: I hope you go back and at least watch all the videos... our Camaro team is awesome and I really enjoyed being able to talk with them at length about the zl1 I mean the 1le.
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Old 09-07-2013, 04:47 AM   #47
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Again, you are misrepresenting what Ive said all along.....i did watch the videos. Youre acting as if I said they are one in the same. I merely said there are similarities. Stop trying to twist my words. Again, i never even said they are in the same class. I said they have similarities.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:58 PM   #48
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You won... no one says a zl1 is like a corvette even though the chief engineer says that borrowed technology from the vette was improved upon. No one says the LS3 SS is like a vette and they share the SAME motor!

Maybe not you but most who say the 1le is like the zl1 is trying to make this awesome machine more than what it is.

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Old 09-07-2013, 03:23 PM   #49
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Its for the wannabe ZL1 owners...LOL. Just Kidding
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:00 PM   #50
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You won... no one says a zl1 is like a corvette even though the chief engineer says that borrowed technology from the vette was improved upon. No one says the LS3 SS is like a vette and they share the SAME motor!

Maybe not you but most who say the 1le is like the zl1 is trying to make this awesome machine more than what it is.

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