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Old 09-08-2013, 07:19 PM   #18
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I ordered the trailing arms and toe rods and the bushings from Apex yesterday. Can't wait until they arrive so that I can install them and track the car once again. I had a lot of wheel hop speed shifting from first to second gear at the track. I wonder how long it will be until I get them?
Thanks for your order. Be sure to let us know what you think after you get them installed.
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Chase, are the outer trailing arm bushings your selling the new and improved ones? BMR made a change back in the Spring because of problems with the originals. Just checking for these guys!
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:21 PM   #20
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Chase, are the outer trailing arm bushings your selling the new and improved ones? BMR made a change back in the Spring because of problems with the originals. Just checking for these guys!
We target a 45 day inventory so we don't typically have anything on the shelf for much longer than that. Anything from that far back is long gone.
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So who offers good package with all the goodies
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:54 AM   #22
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So who offers good package with all the goodies
Apex Motorsports of course. Send me a PM or give us a call and we can discuss your application.
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I might add some tidbits for the 1LE which I suppose might also apply to the ZL1.

I am told the 1LE/ZL1 Toe Rods are good enough and not part of the wheel hop and sidestep problem. They do look a little flimsy to me though.

On the 1LE by just doing the Trailing Arms and the outer TA bushing there is still a little hop but it is a bit more manageable. Side step under power is noticeably improved as well.

So I suppose cradle bushings are next. This is not something I am comfortable doing in my garage, although it is an excellent excuse to buy a home garage lift.

+1 on Apex Chase's warning about solid differential bushings. I did this on my '11 SS and loved the very planted feeling they gave, but was a little annoyed at the extra noise. I was warned however.

So a good plan for a 1LE might be:

Trailing Arm and outer TA bushings
Solid Cradle Bushings
Differential Bushing Inserts. (might as well do this since you are taking big stuff off anyway.)
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:03 AM   #24
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Which of those mods work for road coursing folks?
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:10 AM   #25
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Which of those mods work for road coursing folks?
All of the above. Rear cradle bushings would be the #1 thing right off the bat. Across the board bushings upgrades would be a very good idea for road course use.
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:26 AM   #26
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How hard is removal of the cradle bushings? I was at a shop where a sledge hammer was being used on something...
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How hard is removal of the cradle bushings? I was at a shop where a sledge hammer was being used on something...
There is a couple ways that we have seen people remove the factory rear cradle bushings. Many of our customers will use a sawzall/reciprocating saw and make two slice from the inner sleeve through the outer sleeve which releases the pressure on the bushings and you can hammer or press them out. I have also had customers use a small propane torch and heat the rear cradle where the cradle bushings are and it will loosen up the glue that help to hold those in and then they can be hammered or pressed out.
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Thanks Kyle. Reminds me of the old days and splitting ball joints. (Yes, I'm old. )
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Thanks Kyle. Reminds me of the old days and splitting ball joints. (Yes, I'm old. )
Come on you are not old just well experienced!

The factory rear cradle bushing can be kind of a pain to get out sometimes but replacing them definitely yields very good results in both handling and straight-line performance.
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Old 09-09-2013, 07:48 PM   #30
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Come on you are not old just well experienced!

The factory rear cradle bushing can be kind of a pain to get out sometimes but replacing them definitely yields very good results in both handling and straight-line performance.
Couldn't agree more.
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Trying to find vids showing how involved the work is to remove. I would like this upgrade.
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Trying to find vids showing how involved the work is to remove. I would like this upgrade.
Here is a link that has some pretty good information when it comes to replacing the rear cradle/subframe bushings:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108777
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Old 09-10-2013, 12:52 PM   #33
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Here is a link that has some pretty good information when it comes to replacing the rear cradle/subframe bushings:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108777
Thanks...the thread confirmed that this is a shop job.
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Thanks...the thread confirmed that this is a shop job.
Sometimes it is definitely better to have a shop do it if you don't have the time or tools to conquer a job like this. It can be a real headache if you get stuck in the middle of it.
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