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Old 09-10-2013, 08:12 PM   #85
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I'd love to see a ZL1 hot lap the ring with the Z28 wheel tire combo. I think for a few laps that will be the biggest difference between the models.
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...give us the in car cam footage instead of the cam placed on the rail along side the green hell catching some glimpses of.....
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...the C7 footage was more prolific...and it looked, performed, and sounded like everything it should be....
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I'd love to see a ZL1 hot lap the ring with the Z28 wheel tire combo. I think for a few laps that will be the biggest difference between the models.
I don't know... While I'd agree the weight savings and extra grip would definitely improve ZL1's time, like it looks like you're alluding to, heat could be a problem with at least the SC and shocks. They'd have to recalibrate for those cool new shocks, too. Still, they are saying Z/28 is 300-pounds lighter; that's a lot.

I hope we see some times soon!
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I don't know... While I'd agree the weight savings and extra grip would definitely improve ZL1's time, like it looks like you're alluding to, heat could be a problem with at least the SC and shocks. They'd have to recalibrate for those cool new shocks, too. Still, they are saying Z/28 is 300-pounds lighter; that's a lot.

I hope we see some times soon!
I would think the times would be released soon. It seems like now would be a good time to get the best run. It won't be too hot or too cold and they have been there for a while.
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I don't know... While I'd agree the weight savings and extra grip would definitely improve ZL1's time, like it looks like you're alluding to, heat could be a problem with at least the SC and shocks. They'd have to recalibrate for those cool new shocks, too. Still, they are saying Z/28 is 300-pounds lighter; that's a lot.

I hope we see some times soon!
No doubt. I'm not suggesting anything other than grip is a major part of the difference between these cars for hero lap times. No doubt the Z/28 will be better suited for track days.
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I would think the times would be released soon. It seems like now would be a good time to get the best run. It won't be too hot or too cold and they have been there for a while.
...Sure hope this is the case...We could have watched the paint dry on a few Z/28s by now...lol....
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...it sure is taking a bit too long for my liking for something, .....anything...ok, how about watching grass grow instead of paint drying?
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...it sure is taking a bit too long for my liking for something, .....anything...ok, how about watching grass grow instead of paint drying?
I think the grass got taller around the Nurbergring track....lol....

....And what's up with all the "graffiti" or whatever... all that writing on the track...Could be coded messages....lol
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...Sure hope this is the case...We could have watched the paint dry on a few Z/28s by now...lol....
Me too. I want to see offical numbers on weight, horsepower, lap times, price and stuff like that. That stuff has got to come out soon, right?
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Me too. I want to see offical numbers on weight, horsepower, lap times, price and stuff like that. That stuff has got to come out soon, right?
...Only thing I can figure is that it is an odd-ball release/production time for a '14 model...who knows...Maybe at some big auto-show or whatever in the near future they might come up with "surprise" info....
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I think the grass got taller around the Nurbergring track....lol....

....And what's up with all the "graffiti" or whatever... all that writing on the track...Could be coded messages....lol
...you answered your own question...
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:41 AM   #98
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They haven't stated what the actual power is; just "more than 500" which could be anywhere from 505 to 525 or more. Plus the Z/28 is AT LEAST 300 lbs lighter than the ZL1. I'm guessing they've gotten it below 3,700 lbs. so the power to weight ratio is going to be good. That plus the unsprung rotating weight on the 4 corners of the Z/28 is much less than the ZL1 so it's also going to have the advantage of quicker, smoother acceleration through and out of corners, and better braking so it can go deeper into a corner before having to brake.

It was already 3 seconds faster than the ZL1 at Milford and that was early-on before they'd done all the tweaking the've been doing the past 9 months. It's not going to be just 5 seconds faster on the Ring, it's going to be a LOT faster. That latest video shows it on power and digging hard through those corners; the same corners the Stingray is coasting through trying to hang on while the tires are screaming in protest. The Z/28 is powering through those corners...that thing is FAST.

With the already-admitted 1.05 g's in the corners and 1.5 g's braking, if they can pull off a no-screw-ups hot lap, I bet it cracks the 7:20 mark. I'm guessing 7:19-something. You heard Mark Reuss; they want to build something that the competition can't even touch, so that means not just a little faster, that means track killer faster.

My guess is they're not releasing lap times yet because either Stielow isn't done tweaking, and/or they don't want to give the competition the target numbers they have to beat until the car is close to being released for sale.

They're not going to be able to make enough of these things.
Doc, I hear you. I was tempted to predict a faster time, but I'm not ready to go out on that limb until I have more numbers -- like horsepower and torque.

In 2011 a C6 ZR1 Corvette -- with DOT Competition Tires -- barely broke 7:20 with Jim Mero behind the wheel. That car should be 400 pounds lighter than the Z/28.

I hope you're right, but I'll be stunned if the Z/28 gets below 7:30. Look at the sub-7:36 club -- there are some very heavy hitters there:

7:19.63 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2012) Jim Mero 9 June 2011 General Motors conducted test,[13] base specification car with optional track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure), video confirmed.

7:22.1 Dodge Viper ACR (2009) Tom Coronel, 18 August 2008, Chrysler and Motor Trend conducted test.

7:22.68 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 (2012) Jim Mero, 23 June 2011. General Motors conducted test, base specification car with optional track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure) and Z07 package

7:24 Porsche 911 GT2 RS, Horst von Saurma, Sport Auto (11/2010)

7:24.22 Nissan GT-R (2011), Toshio Suzuki, 1 October 2010, Nissan conducted test. Semi-wet conditions. Video confirmed. Best Motoring (12/2010).

7:24.3 Maserati MC12, Marc Basseng, August 2008, Evo Magazine conducted test

7:24.44, Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, Marc Basseng, August 2008, Evo Magazine conducted test

7:25.7 Ferrari Enzo, Marc Basseng, August 2008, Evo Magazine conducted test

7:26.4 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009), Jim Mero, 27 June 2008. General Motors conducted test, base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed.

7:26.70 Nissan GT-R (2009), Toshio Suzuki, 23 April 2009, Nissan Motors conducted test with optional tires. Video confirmed. Best Motoring (08/2009).

7:27.82 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, Marc Basseng, September 2007, Pagani conducted test, semi-wet conditions.

7:28.00 Porsche Carrera GT, Walter Röhrl, 2 July 2004, Porsche conducted test.

7:28.71 Porsche Carrera GT, Marc Basseng, August 2008, Evo Magazine conducted test.

7:29.03 Nissan GT-R (2009), Toshio Suzuki, 17 April 2008, Nissan Motors conducted test. The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.

7:32.0 Porsche 911 GT2 (2008), Walter Röhrl, 2007. Porsche conducted test, R compound tires used.

7:32.92 Ferrari 458 Italia, Sascha Bert, November 2010, Auto Bild Sportscars (11/2010)

7:33.00 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 997MkII, Horst von Saurma, Sport Auto (04/2010), PCCB

7:33.6 Koenigsegg CCX, Marc Basseng, August 2008, Evo Magazine conducted test

7:34 Koenigsegg CCR, Horst von Saurma, 17 October 2005, Sport Auto (03/2006)

7:34 Porsche 911 GT2, September 2008, Porsche conducted test, stock vehicle with stock tires

7:34 Nissan GT-R (2011), Horst von Saurma, October 2010, Sport Auto (11/2010),.[31]

7:35 Ruf Rt 12, Sport Auto (02/2008)[32]
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