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Old 09-15-2013, 08:02 PM   #126
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When I went to the 2.75" pulley I had to drop my rev limiter to avoid over spinning the whipple. I didn't have my shift light on.
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:15 PM   #127
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Are you shifting early? Or taking to long to shift. The 1/8 mph and time is awful!
I'm looking closer today and this bothers me...all 4 of my runs were 98mph at the 1/8...my 11.4 run from May I was 102 and trapped 129...

I looked at my logs and at the 1/8 mile time, it shows I'm doing around 104mph. It is dead on with my 1/4 mile trap, so possibly their 1/8 mile trap was wrong. I did notice I shift to 4th before the 1/8 now, where as I would shift to 4th after the 1/8 prior to this trip.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:36 PM   #128
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Check out the log of my 10.93 run...it blows me away this was in the 10s...you can see I hit the rev limiter right at the shift on both 1-2 and 2-3, and then don't know what the hell happened when I floored it going into 4th (must be the throttle opening rate changes, but not the expected result) .

I'm working on a new tuning appt to solve my lean tipping that is still an issue...sounds like we'll be going with a SD tune. The knocking early on ramps up the IATs fast. I think fixing my tune alone, will be worth a few more tenths!
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:37 AM   #129
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Here is the video of my last trip to the track...

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Old 09-22-2013, 10:33 PM   #130
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Latest Dyno

I was back in Victoria working on my tune w/Pat G...while I was there I took a pass on the dyno w/my race tune (my street tune is up to 800 whp ). I put my race tune on, but w/o race gas...I turned the meth up too high and ran my AFR in the 9s (I guess that's one way to get in the 9s )...it was still my best dyno to date at 832/791...but I definitely left some on the table... my street tune had a much better stronger torque curve...you can also see the power is continuing I should have gone higher rpm...

We were in a rush to street tune before lunch, so I only got one show at it. This is on a mustang dyno...not sure what happened at 5150...my log is clean.

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Old 09-23-2013, 04:17 AM   #131
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OK I just read this entire thread and this build is insane!
When I saw the pic of you pulling the entire motor in your garage it blew my mind. I could only dream of being able to do that and have the confidence to put it all back together again to work.

Three questions,
1. Would buying the ZL1 Camaro in the first place have helped any with the build? Or would you have still had to replace everything anyway?
2. Why haven't you upgraded the supercharger by now?
3. Why haven't you focused on weight reduction?

Love this thread and all the pics. The videos are awesome! Keep them all coming!
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:07 AM   #132
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OK I just read this entire thread and this build is insane!
When I saw the pic of you pulling the entire motor in your garage it blew my mind. I could only dream of being able to do that and have the confidence to put it all back together again to work.

Three questions,
1. Would buying the ZL1 Camaro in the first place have helped any with the build? Or would you have still had to replace everything anyway?
2. Why haven't you upgraded the supercharger by now?
3. Why haven't you focused on weight reduction?

Love this thread and all the pics. The videos are awesome! Keep them all coming!
Thank you. I enjoy keeping it updated.

1. Yes, in hind sight, zl1 would have been a better starter car. I had no clue I'd be where I am today when I bought it. I definitely caught the bug.

2. Upgrade to what? I went w/the pd blower for reliability, and whipple was the largest and best intercooler. I considered turbos, at the time, but felt the whipple was best option for a daily driver. Plus it's pricey...got to get my money's worth out of the whipple. At this point, I'm holding out for the whipple 4.0L...no release date in sight.

3. I seemed to be more focused on adding weight. Super chiller, 4 gal meth tank, roll bar... Most of the weight reduction I've seen compromises safety or comfort. This is still my 800 hp daily driver. (I have my economy car for backup when I'm upgrading or fixing...it's a suburban). The bogart, slicks and skinnies give some value and weight reduction. I haven't seen anything else that I see value in. But always open to suggestion!

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Old 09-23-2013, 09:15 PM   #133
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Well from reading the thread at once, it just seems you are dead set on reaching tens and even high nines as a goal, but your still doing top out Texas like runs and using it as a daily driver.

Your making the car be three things at once and trying to make it the best at all three at the same time.

If you would just focus on making it one of those cars and not all three at once, you could have surpassed every one of your goals in every single category by now. But instead, your just short of all your goals in all three categories.

Your trying to have your cake and eat it too and it's going to make you insane by the end of this build lol.

Just an outside observation. I love everything about this car and your an ace mechanic for sure. But if this was set up for top speed, it would be well over 210 by now, set up for drag, prolly in the mid nines, and as a daily driver, you could have stopped a long time ago.

Unless of course your goal is to make it the worlds fastest 1/4mile daily driver with a top speed of over 200. In that case carry on and create the most badass camaro I've ever seen!

Love the build, keep the pics coming. I'm subscribed so I know the steps to follow in building mine! Keep the posts coming
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:33 PM   #134
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Unless of course your goal is to make it the worlds fastest 1/4mile daily driver with a top speed of over 200. In that case carry on and create the most badass camaro I've ever seen!
Is that too much to ask?

I'm having fun throughout...too much fun if you ask my wife (and my bank account).

I was tuning tonight, and made some progress on my lean spike issue, so I'm hoping to get one more track night in before the Mile race late Oct. I will have to swap out my rear diff and axles for the mile...3.73 gears won't do very well...if I break 200mph, I'm done...will probably never run it again... what will really suck is if I get 199...

In the 1/4, I have a lot of opportunity...I don't know if I'll ever get 9s with my M6, but I'll continue to try. I'm about to run out of motor...my engine builder said i'm good to 900 whp... I'm probably about 850ish right now, so most I could add is probably a 50 shot of Nos...but that it probably only good for .25s...we'll see where I top out at over the next few months.

Then it's time for road racing! I can't wait!

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Old 09-26-2013, 11:11 PM   #135
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I seem to have solved my lean spike when shifting (or Ayousef did)...went back to my MAF tune. Details in this thread:
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Next event will likely be the Texas Mile, but can't wait to get back on the 1/4 mile! Hoping to get 10.5.

I bought a 2010 SS Auto rear diff for the Mile (3.27), That will get me to 200mph in 5th gear...if I can get there...we'll see...
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:09 PM   #136
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I seem to have solved my lean spike when shifting (or Ayousef did)...went back to my MAF tune. Details in this thread:
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Next event will likely be the Texas Mile, but can't wait to get back on the 1/4 mile! Hoping to get 10.5.

I bought a 2010 SS Auto rear diff for the Mile (3.27), That will get me to 200mph in 5th gear...if I can get there...we'll see...
Good luck on the Texas mile, good idea with the higher gears for the mile.
I don't know if the weather gets cool this time of year down there, but I mostly take mine to the track on a cool night, I always wind up with the best times. But with a "supercharger" and trailering it to the track would definitely make a huge difference with the cooler AIT's. I can see you hitting mid 10's on a good (weather wise) night.
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Good luck on the Texas mile, good idea with the higher gears for the mile.
I don't know if the weather gets cool this time of year down there, but I mostly take mine to the track on a cool night, I always wind up with the best times. But with a "supercharger" and trailering it to the track would definitely make a huge difference with the cooler AIT's. I can see you hitting mid 10's on a good (weather wise) night.
Thanks! Yes it is starting to cool off down here, so I'm hoping for good weather at the mile. I was hoping to get another track day before the mile, but I don't think it's going to work out. I'll get there soon as I can.
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:00 AM   #138
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Just found your build thread...another Houston Whipple car here.

I'll be watching this one...congrats on a great ride.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:57 PM   #139
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Todd Welch from MTW Enterprises came by my house today to install my new stripes. If you are in the Houston area and need stripe work, I highly recommend.

While he was here, I had him put on my numbers for the Texas Mile too...

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Now I need to install the stock auto SS rear diff I got (3.27 gears), and my new hex vents.
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Todd Welch from MTW Enterprises came by my house today to install my new stripes. If you are in the Houston area and need stripe work, I highly recommend.

While he was here, I had him put on my numbers for the Texas Mile too...

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Now I need to install the stock auto SS rear diff I got (3.27 gears), and my new hex vents.
Definitely different, I really like the color, doesn't mimic the mustang stripes. I like them.
Good luck on the Texas mile!
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Definitely different, I really like the color, doesn't mimic the mustang stripes. I like them.
Good luck on the Texas mile!
Thanks. I know the full body stripes are not Chevy traditional, but I've always been a fan, and I've seen a few Camaros with them and couldn't resist.
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Looks great. Love the stripe color!
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:44 AM   #144
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Wow great stripes! I was wanting to get the full ones but I was afraid of how it would look, I've seen some nasty stripes jobs around here but yours turned out great.

And so you said a guy just comes out to your house and puts vinyl stripes on your car in the driveway?! That's awesome!

Any word on the top out run? I didn't see where you said when you were going to it.

I also got my stripes put on the other day, I think the cars just don't look right without some kind of stripe on them.
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Wow great stripes! I was wanting to get the full ones but I was afraid of how it would look, I've seen some nasty stripes jobs around here but yours turned out great.

And so you said a guy just comes out to your house and puts vinyl stripes on your car in the driveway?! That's awesome!

Any word on the top out run? I didn't see where you said when you were going to it.

I also got my stripes put on the other day, I think the cars just don't look right without some kind of stripe on them.
Thanks! He installed them in my garage...very convenient.

The Texas mile is oct 25-27 in beeville TX on a runway at an old navy base. I'm working on swapping my rear diff and axels now.
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Prepping for Texas Mile

Wow, when I bought the SS automatic stock rear diff, I thought it would be a quick swap of the ZL1 diff and axles back to stock...not quite so easy... Turns out the ZL1 drive shaft is about an inch shorter than the SS. So no biggie, change the drive shaft...then I discover the bushing on the SS shaft are actually slightly larger than the ZL1 ...so I had to change the trans flange too...that's more of a PITA. So I ended up having to swap out the entire ZL1 driveline, back to stock.

I'm not sure if they have aftermarket gears for the ZL1, but i'm starting to think swapping the gears might have been easier .

Anyway, now I just hope the stock SS components hold up to my current power. I have a pair of Goodyear supercar tires coming since my current tires were Y and not (Y) rated.

2 weeks to go. Then I get to do the ZL1 drive line swap again before the Camaro/Corvette shootout in Seally Texas! I can't wait for both events.

Goal is 200mph in the mile and 10.5 at the shootout!
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After I did my SS driveline swap . I also took the time to install my Hex Vents! I couldn't believe I was drilling and cutting my own hood, but Steve's instructions are fantastic. To fit the whipple I positioned the vents 1/2 inch wider and 1/2 inch farther back. I'm happy with the way they turned out. I'm hoping they help reduce a little lift during my mile event...last year the car was floating at 180, so if I get near my goal I'm sure she'll be a little light on her toes!

I'm still waiting on some color match trays, so these pics don't have trays...I ended up plasti-dipping the stainless trays, but I rushed it, and not happy how it turned out...

Can't wait to get some good pictures...


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Last weekend was the Texas Mile in Beeville TX.

The trip there and check in went smooth:
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I go to stage at 7am Saturday and let the engine warm up while I'm attaching cameras, setting up my laptop, and fortunately the guy behind me says I have smoke coming from under the hood.... Lord Jesus it's a Fire!

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Thank goodness there were lots of good folks to help me out. Stephan from Serious HP in Houston (where I do my Dyno'ing) spent hours w/me working on it. Cory from Henderson performance (Robert SSE 4 2SS's performance shop) help figure out the crank sensor wires. We ended up changing the tune to open loop as none of the O2 sensors were re-wired.

New wires being spliced in...
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The car was ready to test drive right about dark. Test drive checked and I was ready for the next day. I was really fortunate Stephan and Cory were there to help...it was forecast to rain Sunday, but the weather held and was a great day (maybe a little too hot, but I wasn't complaining).

Finally it was time to race!
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Here is the video:



I didn't get my 200 mph...the stock transmission would not shift cleanly into 5th gear. I also don't think I had the power to quite get there. Here was my best MPH:
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My updated mod wish list:
  • transmission that will shift clean in all gears - researching
  • Nitrous - debating dry or wet shot
    • This may require a fuel system upgrade
  • 2.9 or 3.07 gears (the 3.27 may run out on me) - still debating
  • exhaust cutouts
  • R1 Concepts Drilled and Slotted Rotors
  • Hawk HPS Brake Pads
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Last weekend was the Texas Mile in Beeville TX.

The trip there and check in went smooth:
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I go to stage at 7am Saturday and let the engine warm up while I'm attaching cameras, setting up my laptop, and fortunately the guy behind me says I have smoke coming from under the hood.... Lord Jesus it's a Fire!

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So back to the pits I go to assess the damage.
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A few burnt wires...35 in that bundle...
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Thank goodness there were lots of good folks to help me out. Stephan from Serious HP in Houston (where I do my Dyno'ing) spent hours w/me working on it. Cory from Henderson performance (Robert SSE 4 2SS's performance shop) help figure out the crank sensor wires. We ended up changing the tune to open loop as none of the O2 sensors were re-wired.

New wires being spliced in...
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The car was ready to test drive right about dark. Test drive checked and I was ready for the next day. I was really fortunate Stephan and Cory were there to help...it was forecast to rain Sunday, but the weather held and was a great day (maybe a little too hot, but I wasn't complaining).

Finally it was time to race!
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The morning was a little foggy, so we got a late start...
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Here is the video:



I didn't get my 200 mph...the stock transmission would not shift cleanly into 5th gear. I also don't think I had the power to quite get there. Here was my best MPH:
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Brakes took a beating:
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My updated mod wish list:
  • transmission that will shift clean in all gears - researching
  • Nitrous - debating dry or wet shot
    • This may require a fuel system upgrade
  • 2.9 or 3.07 gears (the 3.27 may run out on me) - still debating
  • exhaust cutouts
  • R1 Concepts Drilled and Slotted Rotors
  • Hawk HPS Brake Pads
If you what a deal on a dry kit let me know.
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