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Old 08-20-2013, 04:32 PM   #1851
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I doubt anyone would lie and leave something out to be on a list that doesn't really mean anything to be honest. I think DA and of course drive ability have a lot to do with it.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:37 PM   #1852
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For every SS running 13.0 or faster there's a dozen or more that are lucky to break into the 13s at all. Not any different for the LS/LT cars.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:38 PM   #1853
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Heck, you picked up that much just from the license plate braket.
I still haven't even put one on, still rocking the temporary permit... I'm saving that gain for when I pull out all the stops and have to start playing with aerodynamics. lol

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You need to remember location too. Those guys up north run NEGATIVE DA sometimes! I'm happy when it was below 1,000 here lol.
Lowest it has ever been here since I've been racing the 5th gen Camaro locally is ~1950 if I remember right... Typically from june-oct while the track is open it will range from ~2500 to 4000...
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I am not saying anyone would be dishonest cause it does stay motor stock, but didn't say anything about weight being stock. Its got to be frustrating for some that put thousands of dollars to only be a tenth faster then he is stock. I will be curious to see how mine does when we ever get some descent weather..guess I have to wait a few more months. In May or June(I forget which) in a mid 90degrees and 69% humidity day I only got a 14.2 out of mine at full weight including the spare tire. Even my car temps were the highest I have ever had, consistently running 205-215 degrees.
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:12 PM   #1855
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Oh, when I buy new rims down the road I will make sure they weigh less then my stock 20's as they cant be helping me either
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:35 PM   #1856
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You need to remember location too. Those guys up north run NEGATIVE DA sometimes! I'm happy when it was below 1,000 here lol.


Got to LOVE that negative DA...........LOL.

All my top 10 runs have been in negative DA.

Track elevation is 827 ft. Best is when it is about 45 - 50 degrees. Good air and just warm enough for some traction too.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:06 PM   #1857
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Yes, Atco raceway at 93' above sea in the late fall (40-50 degrees) is the best.

We found even at that temp, if the sun was beating down on the track with half decent prep, cars would hook up pretty good.

If cloudy/overcast, forget about it. lol
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:03 AM   #1858
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nice dude I've seen one of your vids on youtube with your wife , i believe i even asked you a few questions there ^.^ you have a nice car . What made you decide on a supercharger instead of a turbo? because from what i've heard turbo's should be a better option for the v6.
I already had headers and didn't want to lose them. Besides, I don't think there is event a turbo solution out there for an LLT yet.
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:41 PM   #1859
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Well looks like I won't be making the next race as I was planning... I was planning to just install the 3.27 geared diff this week, and do the stall converter later, but after reading up on what was involved to do just the diff swap, I figured I might as well install the converter at the same time. So I think next week I'll be able to do the diff swap as well as the converter. So I'll have to hit one of the later races like Sept 6 or Sept 20... Shame as it wouldn't be as good of conditions as the Aug 30 race I was hoping to hit.
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Got to LOVE that negative DA...........LOL.

All my top 10 runs have been in negative DA.
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:11 PM   #1861
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:38 AM   #1862
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New time to update for my best to date: 12.541 @ 108.19

Tires used on the pass: M/T 305/20 ET Street Drag Radials
Performance Mods (if any): Drag radials, Solo HFCs, GMPP mufflers, 3400 FTI convertor,RX ported throttle body, CAI Intake W/air scoop, 3:45 gears W/complete SS posi diff swap, BMR Diff and cradle bushings, toe arms, trailing arms, tunnel stiffener and drivesahft loop, NYTREX nitrous 100hp level, HP Tuners software, Tuning by Matt@FSP
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R/T.......... .108
60'.............1.721
330'...........5.081
660'...........7.974
660’ mph...84.09
1000'..........10.453
1320'..........12.541
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Name of the track Capitol Raceway, Crofton, Maryland
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Time slip for the above submitted run. I'm in the right lane #2615

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Old 09-07-2013, 01:42 PM   #1864
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:28 AM   #1865
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New time to update for my best to date: 12.541 @ 108.19

Tires used on the pass: M/T 305/20 ET Street Drag Radials
Performance Mods (if any): Drag radials, Solo HFCs, GMPP mufflers, 3400 FTI convertor,RX ported throttle body, CAI Intake W/air scoop, 3:45 gears W/complete SS posi diff swap, BMR Diff and cradle bushings, toe arms, trailing arms, tunnel stiffener and drivesahft loop, NYTREX nitrous 100hp level, HP Tuners software, Tuning by Matt@FSP
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R/T.......... .108
60'.............1.721
330'...........5.081
660'...........7.974
660’ mph...84.09
1000'..........10.453
1320'..........12.541
1320’ mph…108.19
Name of the track Capitol Raceway, Crofton, Maryland
Date of pass: 9 / 7 /2013
You're my hero. Just reading your mods for the run and considering you are a '12 also and I'm thinking this might be worth emulating (slowly, surely, and one step at a time). I have been thinking lately that nitrous would be my next mod. Now I know it is.

Parts I don't have yet:

- DRs
- 3.45 gears
- SS diff
- Stall converter
- BMR Diff and cradle bushings, toe arms, trailing arms, tunnel stiffener and drivesahft loop
- Nitrous
- Tune

Aside from the nitrous itself, what other mod or mods from the list would you say have contributed most to your performance on the strip? It has only just recently sunk in to me that my burnouts tend to be a little "one sided" so the SS diff swap has been mentioned by some as the fix to that.

I have yet to completely understand what exactly an aftermarket torque converter does and how it relates to launch but if I'm thinking right, it means you can load a lot higher RPM behind it with your foot on the brake at the tree. Of course when you dump that power, if the parts down the line can't hold it, something slips, hence the DRs, etc. With my foot planted on the brake, I can only get up to about 1250 RPM +/- and no more. I don't know if that's the computer or the converter though but regardless, I launch at 1k on the stock Pirellis, else I slip.

Sorry for the ramblin'. Just trying to get my learn on.
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You're my hero. Just reading your mods for the run and considering you are a '12 also and I'm thinking this might be worth emulating (slowly, surely, and one step at a time). I have been thinking lately that nitrous would be my next mod. Now I know it is.

Parts I don't have yet:

- DRs
- 3.45 gears
- SS diff
- Stall converter
- BMR Diff and cradle bushings, toe arms, trailing arms, tunnel stiffener and drivesahft loop
- Nitrous
- Tune

Aside from the nitrous itself, what other mod or mods from the list would you say have contributed most to your performance on the strip? It has only just recently sunk in to me that my burnouts tend to be a little "one sided" so the SS diff swap has been mentioned by some as the fix to that.

I have yet to completely understand what exactly an aftermarket torque converter does and how it relates to launch but if I'm thinking right, it means you can load a lot higher RPM behind it with your foot on the brake at the tree. Of course when you dump that power, if the parts down the line can't hold it, something slips, hence the DRs, etc. With my foot planted on the brake, I can only get up to about 1250 RPM +/- and no more. I don't know if that's the computer or the converter though but regardless, I launch at 1k on the stock Pirellis, else I slip.

Sorry for the ramblin'. Just trying to get my learn on.
I think the biggest impact mods you could do right now would be a PROPER tune. You have a 2012, take advantage of that. Then it'd probably be the DRs, SS conv, and nitrous
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Old 09-23-2013, 05:02 PM   #1867
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Ran at Atco this past Saturday and here are the times.





Nice Run, that is a really good 60' too. Looks like your trap speed is down a few mph for that ET, any thoughts on why?

I will post your run to the front page, this puts you at # 5. Congrats.

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Nice Run, that is a really good 60' too. Looks like your trap speed is down a few mph for that ET, any thoughts on why?

I will post your run to the front page, this puts you at # 5. Congrats.

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Tires used on the pass: Fronts- Stock 19" Rears- 18" Nitto NT05R 305
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60'............. 1.77
330'........... 5.38
660'........... 8.303
660’ mph... 82.93
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1320’ mph… 102.52
Name of the track: Atco Raceway (Atco NJ)
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Sorry couldn't figure out that DA #.
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Working on going smaller, 16's hopefully (rim size).
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Are there any 16s that'd fit? You might want a little less width too. Like a 275-285 radial
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R/T........... .331
60'............. 1.77
330'........... 5.38
660'........... 8.303
660’ mph... 82.93
1000'.......... 10.865

1320'.......... 13.04
1320’ mph… 102.52
Name of the track: Atco Raceway (Atco NJ)
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Sorry couldn't figure out that DA #.
Don't know why my speed was down at end. Open to suggestions??

Thank - you for the updated information, I will get it posted today. As for the DA, I can get that info. for you.

Now posted to the main page, Congrats.

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Could be, I tried those and found them to be just to be and heavy for our V6, way more tire than we need.



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Are there any 16s that'd fit? You might want a little less width too. Like a 275-285 radial

I would try the Mickey Thompson Drag Radial. Go with the 265/40/18. This is what I am currently using. Get the benifit of a gear change with this since it is a smaller dia. This is plenty of tire for us. I bought the set-up used from a friend who was running a modded SS, and this was plenty of tire for him too.
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Yea but he's also running a 100 shot of nitrous so he may need that much tire. Of course I don't run nitrous so I can't say for sure. But I'd definitely do the 16" wheel route if you can
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Yea but he's also running a 100 shot of nitrous so he may need that much tire. Of course I don't run nitrous so I can't say for sure. But I'd definitely do the 16" wheel route if you can
My point on the tire I am running thou is his 100 shot + his HP is no more than the SS that I got my tires from, and my friend hooked up with NP with that set-up.
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