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Old 09-15-2013, 09:51 PM   #51
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Haddad Motorsports installed my Pfadt ZL spec sways on my 2013 SS vert. For my driving, no autocross, etc., he recommended not to use the front end links as they will make noise. The upper bolt on the front end link had too much slop into the hole as compared to the factory which Mike did not like. He installed the Pfadt rear end links, which, he stated are slightly modified factory ZL1 links, and reinstalled my factory OEM front end links. No noise. Everything Mike Haddad has done on my car has been great. He knows his stuff and listens to his customers needs and wants.
Well the bolt having to much slop makes sense. Wonder if there's enough room to put a small sleeve in there or something? Mine was pretty snug when I put them on. willtake a look. Hate to have to use the stockers with the Auto xing I do, they wont last long
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Old 09-15-2013, 09:56 PM   #52
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Hotchkis problems solved... just saying
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Old 09-15-2013, 10:12 PM   #53
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Yeah but for how long? Mine were good to for 6-7 months, unless something loosened up.
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Old 09-15-2013, 10:16 PM   #54
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Yeah but for how long? Mine were good to for 6-7 months, unless something loosened up.
You had the Hotchkis end links and they got noisy after 6-7 months?
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You had the Hotchkis end links and they got noisy after 6-7 months?
No, sorry. meant the new style Pfadtfront links that I got with the ZL1 spec bars
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Well the bolt having to much slop makes sense. Wonder if there's enough room to put a small sleeve in there or something? Mine was pretty snug when I put them on. willtake a look. Hate to have to use the stockers with the Auto xing I do, they wont last long
I was wondering about a sleeve myself. Mike said he needed to talk to Pfadt about their front end links and suggest some changes. He's so busy I am not sure he got around to it. Maybe you should give him a call.
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:25 AM   #57
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Are you running their new competition sways for the 2013? I have electronic steering and their new sways were not ready at the time I purchased my Pfadts. Also, on their site it shows the new sways with bushings and rear end links, but, no front end links. The front bar is not adjustable like the Pfadt, and I could not find 2013/Fe4 front end links for the Hotchkis. Would the 2011-12 front endlinks work on a 2013?
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:18 PM   #58
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I was wondering about a sleeve myself. Mike said he needed to talk to Pfadt about their front end links and suggest some changes. He's so busy I am not sure he got around to it. Maybe you should give him a call.
He's busy alright. The new Pfadt links were to have addressed this issue but guesss they didnt?
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He's busy alright. The new Pfadt links were to have addressed this issue but guesss they didnt?
Mine came with the new ones and he told me that even if the top bolt was the same size of the OEM bolt for a better fit their heim joints will start making noise in a year. Not sure if the top mounting hole is larger on the 2013 as compared to previous years.
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Mine came with the new ones and he told me that even if the top bolt was the same size of the OEM bolt for a better fit their heim joints will start making noise in a year. Not sure if the top mounting hole is larger on the 2013 as compared to previous years.
Great. I'll go and buy Hotchkis if it bothers me to much
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Mine came with the new ones and he told me that even if the top bolt was the same size of the OEM bolt for a better fit their heim joints will start making noise in a year. Not sure if the top mounting hole is larger on the 2013 as compared to previous years.
Well he's right about that part. It's the top of the joint that's making noise. I reached up with a mechanic's glove on and really yanked hard on the sway bars near the end where it's bolted to the end link and sure enough it made that popping/knocking sound. I can't feel any movement but there's just enough apparently to make that noise.
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o.K., latest mod. Ordered a service kit from Hotchkis for the endlinks to see if the noise I/we all get is coming from them.Sounds like it is and this should take care of most or all of the clunking sound. Is a rubber boot that gets greased and fits over the Heim link at the top.It fits very tight, if not then its something else.or later can buy there new ball joint design links that has that also. Seems these things get worn as alot of dirt and crap gets on and in them wearing them down a bit, which makes sence considering where they are.Will post up and let everyone know
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I'll be interested. What are your current settings for the street on your Pfadts? Middle/middle?
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I'll be interested. What are your current settings for the street on your Pfadts? Middle/middle?
Yep. More rear bar and may get tail happy on auto x when I put the new hp to the ground off a turn. Heck have to watch it now!
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Update on my pop pop noise.... today we had Camaro up on lift to look for reason/solution and turns out both sides, the link bolts on the front sway worked loose. Some mega tightening, and all quiet now.

The new Pfadt stage 4 coil suspension, solid bushings is visually cool to look at, we were viewing it and other stuff I've done, to then discover while poking around the underside of car, that my DSS axles, the boots are torn, -bad! Both sides!
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Update on my pop pop noise.... today we had Camaro up on lift to look for reason/solution and turns out both sides, the link bolts on the front sway worked loose. Some mega tightening, and all quiet now.

The new Pfadt stage 4 coil suspension, solid bushings is visually cool to look at, we were viewing it and other stuff I've done, to then discover while poking around the underside of car, that my DSS axles, the boots are torn, -bad! Both sides!
Okay crud, now I'm going to have to check mine lol. What did you torque them to?

Thanks for the update!
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There are have been posts about the pfadt endlinks being noisy and breaking, has this been fixed. They have their endlinks on sale right now and I am interested. I have pfadt sway bars that i have not installed yet. I was planning on using stock endlinks, but not sure what I should do at this point.
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I'm wondering the same thing since I'm really close to placing an order on the Pfadt ZL spec sway bars with end links.
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