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Old 09-24-2013, 12:43 PM   #15
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Check if your build date is Jan - March 2010 period.

They may know more about this problem than we do.
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Old 09-25-2013, 02:55 PM   #16
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Check if your build date is Jan - March 2010 period.

They may know more about this problem than we do.
I think it was built Sept 2009 but of course I can't verify that without the car here. What is special about Jan-Mar 2010? Is that the timing belt issue or something else?
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:37 PM   #17
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I think it was built Sept 2009 but of course I can't verify that without the car here. What is special about Jan-Mar 2010? Is that the timing belt issue or something else?
We had a blown engine thread around here and those yrs kept coming up.
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Old 09-25-2013, 10:11 PM   #18
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We had a blown engine thread around here and those yrs kept coming up.
Yeah I think you might mean this one.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...engine+failure

I will ask bcperry to add me to the list when I can confirm the build date.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:12 PM   #19
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I had another good phone call with the dealer today. He said that they had pulled the motor out and removed the oil pan. The bearing (not sure which one he said) was shot and the crank shaft is badly damaged. There is no oil in there and there is metal every where. He said that he is going to call GM in the morning and petition them for a new motor. He explained to me that visually it looks repairable but with the amount of metal that he is seeing that is loose that there is no way that he could properly clean it out without a complete tear down and sending out the motor to get degreased to assure that the metal gets out of all the oil channels and holes. And with the amount of labor that it would take it would not make any sense to do it. He had not pulled any of the pistons so he does not know yet if there was scoring done there or whether the valves hit or not. He should not from GM tomorrow.

That is great!!! Here I thought I was going to be the one to build a case that a repair does not make sense but he is doing that for me.
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Old 09-27-2013, 02:38 PM   #20
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New motor with design improvements is best way to go.
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:44 PM   #21
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New motor with design improvements is best way to go.
He will get the a LLT motor... no design improvements...
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:49 PM   #22
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Stopped by the dealer and now I have to cross my fingers. The tech called GM and want him to inspect the cam and determine if there is metal up there. If there is then they will replace the motor. If there is no metal then they will recommend a rebuild......He will inspect the cam on Monday.

Here are some pics. It was rod bearing #3 that blew. Fuzzy picture of the cam damage, rod bearing sleeve, metal in the oil pan and the oil pickup filter.
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:21 AM   #23
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He will get the a LLT motor... no design improvements...
Two I know of are improvements to the chains and oil flow check valve
in the head.

Also they will shorten the OLM oil change intervals.
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:26 AM   #24
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I called the dealer today to see if they had inspected the cam. They had. He said that there was metal debris up in the cam and the cam actuator. They called GM and let them know the information and now they are waiting on PQC (I think that is what he said) to approve a new motor.

I had never heard the term of a cam actuator before and after a bit of Googling I found this article: http://tinyurl.com/oomhts8
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Old 10-02-2013, 04:59 PM   #25
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Well the dealer called. Not good. He has informed me that they will not cover this under warranty. Why you ask???... Remember this quote from my initial post...

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...Jiffy Lube...the receipt says no oil on the dipstick and sludge in the oil....
The dealer is telling me that the DMA (District Manager Adviser???) has now noticed that the receipt had this detail on it so they don't want to cover it. But that begs to wonder where the oil is going. Here are my last few oil changes.

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03/27/12 - 31,509 - Oil change
03/22/13 - 34,247 - Car Purchased - Full oil on dipstick
04/07/13 - 34,840 - Checked Oil - Full Oil on dipstick
04/07/13 - 34,843 - Oil change - Jiffy Lube reports no oil on dipstick and sludge
09/14/13 - 37,8xx - Full oil on dipstick
09/19/13 - 37,866 - Engine death - Dealer reports no oil on dipstick and sludge

I pointed out that the one oil change was just over a year but that the mileage was only 3300 miles.

The dealer suggested that I call back the used car dealer and tell them what happened and see if they can provide any assistance. I have called this other dealer, explained all of the above and he is floored. He as astounded that they will not cover it. He has suggested that I escalate it to GM.

Any suggestions on who/how the best way escalate this?
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:51 PM   #26
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I don't understand why one of the service reps on this site has not chimed in on this thread. Let me look around & see if I can find one who has posted. I'd talk to one of them. I know they have assisted in some cases of C5 members.

Found them & sent a PM to chime in here.
Here is the link to their page:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/privat...=newpm&u=29125
Good luck & keep us posted.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:30 PM   #27
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Awesome Thanks Ruby. I had found that as well and addressed it to Wiiliam R.

The frustrating thing about this is that I feel like I have been jumping through hoops each time.

- First it was I didn't have proof that I had a recent oil change. I provided that.
- Then it was to wait until the service manager to talk to the District Service Manager to OK it. I am not sure if they did talk or not but was assured that it would be covered under warranty.
- Then it was rebuild versus new engine. Metal was found in the cam so it was going to be new engine.
- Now its this.

Has my luck run out? If I manage to get over this hurtle are there going to be any more?
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:14 PM   #28
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Wy would they tell you to call the used lot you got it from when they are not associated with Gm?
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