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View Poll Results: which blower cam
jre rough idle 16 21.92%
ecs big blower 7 9.59%
lethal night fury 12 16.44%
texas speed blower 4 5.48%
custom grind 34 46.58%
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Old 10-04-2013, 08:25 AM   #1
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blower cam poll

Trying to figure out how to do a poll. Which blower cam would you choose. Jre rough idle, ecs big blower, night fury, tsp blower, or custom grind.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:55 AM   #2
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Custom spec from Pat Guerra here.
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Custom grind from the guys at Texas Speed here.
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Old 10-04-2013, 10:23 AM   #4
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see my thread over in engines...110whp gain on a GPI vvt grind...but I'm guessing you have an LS3...your loss.
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I voted for the ECS cam, because they are the best.
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Old 10-04-2013, 10:31 AM   #6
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You guys with custom grinds have more cubes right. Im still stock. Im not sure im at the level that needs a "custom" grind. Im sure all these companies that have blower cams did there homework and didnt just pull #s out of thin air. And when you get a cam specced for you is it going to be more aggressive than an "off the shelf" grind? I dont want to be replacing valvesprings every few months. Also how much detail do you think these people that spec out cams go into. Lets say this guy has 2" headers, 12 psi and someone else has 1 7/8" , 10 psi. Are the cam specs going to be different. I doubt it
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There is more power to be had with a custom grind on any size motor, 400+ cubes or not. A custom grind is typically more aggressive than off the shelf, but that is becasue I would argue that most custom cams are going in cars that want that. A custom cam is just that CUSTOM. It can be ground anyway you or the builder wants.

The cam specs will be slightly different between those two cars if you are going to maximize the setup. But they would be damn close, yes.

Off the shelf cams are good, but custom costs the same. Why put a universal part on your custom build?
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There is more power to be had with a custom grind on any size motor, 400+ cubes or not. A custom grind is typically more aggressive than off the shelf, but that is becasue I would argue that most custom cams are going in cars that want that. A custom cam is just that CUSTOM. It can be ground anyway you or the builder wants.

The cam specs will be slightly different between those two cars if you are going to maximize the setup. But they would be damn close, yes.

Off the shelf cams are good, but custom costs the same. Why put a universal part on your custom build?
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vengeance custom grind

you can identify a vengeance car by the sound of their custom ground cams
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You guys do realise that all the cams listed are "custom grinds" right?
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LOL @ post #9
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Yes, but not in the sense that the are custom ground for your specific build.
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if you have a ECS blower setup why wouldnt you work with ECS or someone like FSP that has a ton of experience with their own blowers? im sure a ton of R&D has gone into it.
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To the OP...you need to talk to your tuner and see what he likes and wants to tune.
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My cam is custom ground for my application... Graham Behan of Lingenfelter and Corey my builder collaborated on it... TT 429 CI, relatively high rpm's...
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To the OP...you need to talk to your tuner and see what he likes and wants to tune.
Good tuners have a lot of experience to draw on, and know what works best with the driving style and power desires of the owner... You have to be honest in discussions about the power desires and driving style with them though...
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Yea what is it a secret patented grind
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All the above mentioned cams will work just fine but I really like doing custom grinds if the customer will allow it. Isn't a money thing from a business standpoint but it provides the best gains per the combo and goals of the customer. We use Ed curtis for all of our custom grinds and his name easily speaks for itself.
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I know a custom grind will always make more power but are we talking 5hp or 50 and at the expense of valvetrain life?
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It depends on the setup, and how much more aggressive the cam grind is. I for one couldn't get the same characteristics from an off the shelf cam, does that mean that my cam is much more powerful than an off the shelf? No, but it suited my car better. Again, Valvetrain life can be better with a custom grind, just as an off the shelf cam can be hard on springs too.
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Night Fury.. 557RWHP before, 665RWHP after
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Night Fury.. 557RWHP before, 665RWHP after
I really like the way the night fury sounds
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If you want that sound, get used to doing valve springs. Anything with high lift and a lope at idle will be harder on springs.
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The ecs and night fury have both made 800+rwhp on stock blocks so i guess cant go wrong with either.
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