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Old 10-06-2013, 11:02 PM   #18
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OP Nice to see you have completed your power quest. Great numbers from a mild cam.

Did those coil overs improve your track times? And does your tune raise the rev limit?

Next move that washer bottle out of the way and get a scoop for another 3 HP.

And Boss 302s should have been afraid of your stock 1LE.
Thanks man! Rev limiter is bumped up to 6,800 RPM. Unfortunately I don't have any before/after times with the coilovers, and I'll tell you that it kicked ass stock too. My stock 1LE was faster than a number of Boss 302s at Thunderhill except for this one Boss 302 Laguna Seca. But he came in on a trailer, his engine was modded and he had R compounds. I hope to have a rematch soon, now that I've got a little extra power

And I'll be running some monstrous NT-01 315/30-18's front and rear next outing too. Good times ahead!
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:04 AM   #19
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Orange, nice numbers! I'm going to be spec'ing a road course cam soon myself, probably at Lethal Racing during the Texas Fest! Did you have Synergy do the install or did you do it yourself? What makes a cam grind more suited to road course use? Less lift more duration? Do you have any videos of the idle sound?

What is it with an HV oil pump that isn't good for road course use? What type of oil pump should be used?
Ramp rates are gentler, lower overall lift, more duration. Stock oil pump or melling with the stock pressure spring. There is no benefit to running a high volume on these cars anyways. Road racing it will heat the oil more and increases likelihood of running the pan dry. Although in these tanks you will likely need slicks to get there.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:56 PM   #20
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Thanks, I was really surprised at the big gains without sacrificing driveability. I'm fortunate that Synergy is 20 miles from me. Rick is well known in NorCal for his engine building and dyno tuning expertise, so I put my trust in him to do just that and he delivered. As I understand it, the trick is to design the cam so that it doesn't abuse the valve springs. Valve springs on a typical big cam that is used on a road course need to be replaced at least every season, or more often if you blow a couple of shifts. The cam profiles on this cam are more gradual. And the slightly lower lift of this cam is to prevent the valves from colliding with the pistons if you over-rev, which is easy to do on the track with so much going on. There's probably a lot more to it than that, I'll let the experts chime in if they have anything to add.

Here's the thing- The dyno results show that I didn't have to sacrifice much HP at all to achieve this improved longevity. This is an impressive cam.

I don't have any vids yet, but it sounds mean. Not extremely lumpy, but nicely cammed. I wore out the stock pads after just two track weekends, so it's in getting track pads and stainless brake lines now, but I may get a chance to video the idle in a couple of weeks before my next track outing at Buttonwillow
Looks like this is the type of cam I'm looking for! Durability, good power, not too radical and nice idle (I'll take your word for it till I hear a video clip, lol!)
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Ramp rates are gentler, lower overall lift, more duration. Stock oil pump or melling with the stock pressure spring. There is no benefit to running a high volume on these cars anyways. Road racing it will heat the oil more and increases likelihood of running the pan dry. Although in these tanks you will likely need slicks to get there.
Thanks for the info! I'm a newb at cams so I'm starting to do my research before it's time to drop the hammer on one!
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:00 PM   #21
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Orange, I forgot to mention that I LOVE your engine covers! Here's mine!
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:07 PM   #22
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Orange, I forgot to mention that I LOVE your engine covers! Here's mine!
Thanks Mike, I see great minds think alike! It's nice to be able to pop the hood and no longer cringe at the sight of the cheap stock plastic engine cover, isn't it?
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:36 PM   #23
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Thanks Mike, I see great minds think alike! It's nice to be able to pop the hood and no longer cringe at the sight of the cheap stock plastic engine cover, isn't it?
Agreed! I get a lot of compliments when I open the hood!
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Agreed! I get a lot of compliments when I open the hood!
What's sad is I have the same Covers as you guys, just in CGM, and when I saw your car at the Fest, I got jealous! Everything under your hood is tasteful and looks like it should be OEM. Well done sir!
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Thanks man! Rev limiter is bumped up to 6,800 RPM. Unfortunately I don't have any before/after times with the coilovers, and I'll tell you that it kicked ass stock too. My stock 1LE was faster than a number of Boss 302s at Thunderhill except for this one Boss 302 Laguna Seca. But he came in on a trailer, his engine was modded and he had R compounds. I hope to have a rematch soon, now that I've got a little extra power

And I'll be running some monstrous NT-01 315/30-18's front and rear next outing too. Good times ahead!
Jeez! You really been upping the ante.
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:10 AM   #26
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What's sad is I have the same Covers as you guys, just in CGM, and when I saw your car at the Fest, I got jealous! Everything under your hood is tasteful and looks like it should be OEM. Well done sir!
Thanks man!
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Great build and an impressive car for sure! I'm just a little jealous.

A cam from Synergy may have just made it on my short list. Is there any reason that it wouldn't make a good choice as street cam? My car will only see 1 or 2 track days per year, but I would love to have the added power and keep it a track capable car.

If you get a chance, please post a vid of your exhaust at idle, I would love to hear what it sounds like and I'm sure some others would too.
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:01 AM   #30
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Great build and an impressive car for sure! I'm just a little jealous.

A cam from Synergy may have just made it on my short list. Is there any reason that it wouldn't make a good choice as street cam? My car will only see 1 or 2 track days per year, but I would love to have the added power and keep it a track capable car.

If you get a chance, please post a vid of your exhaust at idle, I would love to hear what it sounds like and I'm sure some others would too.
Thanks man! This cam is ideal for the street because it has no surging issues as compared to many of the popular cams. And the broad, low end torque makes it very usable power. You can see from the forums that the trend right now is for big duration cams. Well, my friend bought too big of a cam, and after suffering with poor drivability for some time he went to Synergy and got a new cam and dyno tune. He's the one that convinced me to go with Synergy, and he was dead on. And for the times that you do track it, this cam will be gentle on your valve springs and tolerant of a missed shift without ruining the springs or god forbid having a valve to piston collision.

I've seen a number of builds where people installed monster cams have even done heads and their power and torque results are not much greater than mine. Why sacrifice low end torque and drivability if you don't have to?

Here's a number that surprised me - my peak speed at Buttonwillow Raceway was 113 MPH before the cam/longtubes/CAI and 130 MPH after! I also added R compound tires which I'm sure contributed to the improvement on the road course.

I'll try to shoot a vid of the exhaust note and post it soon. It has a nice muscle car lope to it, no mistaking it for the hollow smooth stock sound it used to have.
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I'm thinking they will be on my list of people to talk to when I go cam shopping in about 6 months. I'm looking to either do head work or TFS GenX's, with that. I like the way you describe this cam though.
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I'm thinking they will be on my list of people to talk to when I go cam shopping in about 6 months. I'm looking to either do head work or TFS GenX's, with that. I like the way you describe this cam though.
I was going to do heads too, but both Synergy and my friend talked me out of it. Save the money, the stock LS3 heads flow so well you'll only get a small improvement for your cash outlay.
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I was going to do heads too, but both Synergy and my friend talked me out of it. Save the money, the stock LS3 heads flow so well you'll only get a small improvement for your cash outlay.
That's something to consider. I'm trying to hit 500/500 though. I have in my mind (but I need to research things first) that I want to do the following...

1) Intake... I already have the ADM Race intake.
2) Ported TB... I already have a Vmax
3) Pfadt LT's... I plan on doing this in November with a tune.
4) Either Lingenfelter Ported heads or TFS GenX 255's.
5) Cam to be determined which one.
6) Depending on what happens at SEMA I'm interested in the new Dual Plenum intakes that are supposed to be released. As it stands the FAST doesn't offer enough improvement to justify the cost.

You know about my suspension and Aero plans. I've already got brakes covered. I'm thinking wheels might be in order to run 305's all around.

Just so you know if you meet my wife and she might want to hurt you because of the damage to my bank account your car has inspired... Yes I know I plan to go an extra step or two but it's all your fault. At least that's what I'm telling my wife....... LMAO!
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That's something to consider. I'm trying to hit 500/500 though. I have in my mind (but I need to research things first) that I want to do the following...

1) Intake... I already have the ADM Race intake.
2) Ported TB... I already have a Vmax
3) Pfadt LT's... I plan on doing this in November with a tune.
4) Either Lingenfelter Ported heads or TFS GenX 255's.
5) Cam to be determined which one.
6) Depending on what happens at SEMA I'm interested in the new Dual Plenum intakes that are supposed to be released. As it stands the FAST doesn't offer enough improvement to justify the cost.

You know about my suspension and Aero plans. I've already got brakes covered. I'm thinking wheels might be in order to run 305's all around.

Just so you know if you meet my wife and she might want to hurt you because of the damage to my bank account your car has inspired... Yes I know I plan to go an extra step or two but it's all your fault. At least that's what I'm telling my wife....... LMAO!
Nice plan! If our ladies got together we'd both be in the doghouse! Mine is running thin on patience, but she wants to come out and watch me drive one day. So she's still cool, I just don't want to push her over the edge.

Here's what I did to keep peace- When I attended the Ron Fellows driving school, which is just outside of Vegas, we tacked on a weekend getaway for Vegas. She flew in Friday eve right after class and we had a blast in Vegas.
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