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Old 10-14-2013, 07:26 PM   #18
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And it is slower than a 70k GTR by 21 seconds (2009 model, which had a base price of 68k, 4 years ago, and weighs much more, has more luxuries, etc.)
YEaa, but its not a Camaro .

We could do this all day, but the fact of the matter is that this Z/28 performs
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:27 PM   #19
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I felt it would be a little faster than it was, but 3.8 seconds faster than the ZL1 is nothing to be ashamed of. If it was only a few tenths faster, then I would have been disappointed, but 3.8 seconds is in my opinion big.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:28 PM   #20
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YEaa, but its not a Camaro .

We could do this all day, but the fact of the matter is that this Z/28 performs
It performs to a lower standard than it should imo
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:28 PM   #21
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We could do this all day, but the fact of the matter is that this Z/28 performs
Hot rod magazine sums it up pretty good...

"NEWSLASH! 2014 Camaro Z/28 Absolutely Kills It At Nurburgring"

"This behemoth of a muscle car eats up Nurburgring like sauerkraut during Oktoberfest and demolishes such luminaries as the Porsche Carrera S and Lamborghini Murcielago LP640. Not bad for a car that weighs two tons, eh?"
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:33 PM   #22
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Hot rod magazine sums it up pretty good...

"NEWSLASH! 2014 Camaro Z/28 Absolutely Kills It At Nurburgring"

"This behemoth of a muscle car eats up Nurburgring like sauerkraut during Oktoberfest and demolishes such luminaries as the Porsche Carrera S and Lamborghini Murcielago LP640. Not bad for a car that weighs two tons, eh?"
nuff said!
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:37 PM   #23
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Not good enough to trade in my ZL1. I wanted it to be but alas, it is good...not great imo. Nonetheless, I am proud of team Camaro. That's all for me.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:41 PM   #24
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Camaro Z/28 Nurburgring time = 7:37.47 !!

Also on the slightly disappointed side of the fence here.

A remarkable time of course, but given how stripped back it is, the tires and wheel combo, the carbon ceramic brakes etc - I was hoping for a little more.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:44 PM   #25
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And it is slower than a 70k GTR by 21 seconds (2009 model, which had a base price of 68k, 4 years ago, and weighs much more, has more luxuries, etc.)
Your reading comprehension and mathematics skills are only exceeded by your typing skills...

The difference is 3 POINT 01 seconds, and an V-Spec GT-R is a lot more than $70K - in '09 or any other Model year. Unless you're buying Used. Great performance by a robot car...with AWD. BTW, it's pretty easy to "tune" an extra lb or two of boost into a turbo car...

You're disappointed? I'm shocked at that turn of events. It's pretty much what I expected. Surrounded by all this "expectation creep" that's gone on, it's about what realistically SHOULD have been expected.

Deep into the 7:20s or tying-beating Z06/Z07 C6s was a pretty fanciful wish...
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:45 PM   #26
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My butt was puckered the whole time watching that run Bad to the bone
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:46 PM   #27
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4:48 yikes and 6:22+ sliding around in the wet! That is a really good time for the conditions! This is a race car for the street no doubts. The fact it can beat some of the best street cars in the world again "in the wet" is pure joy for Camaro fans everywhere and oh BTW Ford try and beat that.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:48 PM   #28
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For those that are somewhat disappointed with the lap time (7:37:47), what lap time did you expect? Just curious.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:49 PM   #29
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Congrats Chevy Performance team!! You set the bar high for other American Auto makers!
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Camaro Z/28 Nurburgring time = 7:37.47 !!

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For those that are somewhat disappointed with the lap time (7:37:47), what lap time did you expect? Just curious.
Low 7.30s given the upgraded parts and weight savings over a ZL1

I was hoping for a little more than 0.8% quicker than the ZL1 anyway.

That's not to say it is not a fantastic time and that shouldn't be lost in the point I'm making - of course it is fantastic, but I dunno, given all the hype I thought low 7.30s for sure.

Probably just had too much time to hype it up and expect the unreasonable though
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Your reading comprehension and mathematics skills are only exceeded by your typing skills...

The difference is 2 POINT 1 seconds, and an V-Spec GT-R is a lot more than $70K - in '09 or any other Model year. Unless you're buying Used. Great performance by a robot car...with AWD.

You're disappointed? I'm shocked at that turn of events. It's pretty much what I expected. Surrounded by all this "expectation creep" that's gone on, it's about what realistically SHOULD have been expected.

Deep into the 7:20s or tying-beating Z06/Z07 C6s was a pretty fanciful wish...
Why hello there. The Spec V wasnt the only 2009 model gtr smart ass. The fastest lap by the first model year was 7:26. Have you ever driven a GTR? You probably call it a robot car because that is what everyone with a slower car says to make themselves feel better
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Low 7.30s given the upgraded parts and weight savings over a ZL1

I was hoping for a little more than 0.8% quicker than the ZL1 anyway.

That's not to say it is not a fantastic time - of course it is, but I dunno, given all the hype I thought low 7.30s for sure
That's pretty fast expectation (aspiration?)! Right up there with: 26. Mercedes SLS AMG GT7:30.00Onboard N/A'12
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:59 PM   #33
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That's a great time! It's not just the time but how it was done. In a 427 Camaro Z/28 that many said would never be built. I am extremely proud and can't wait to see the video tomorrow since the internet is crap at my work.
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I laugh at people who are disappointed in this time with the weather 54 degrees and some rain and the driver who was doing his best not to spin out when it started raining. I believe there is prolly another half a second to a second that can be had more in better conditions what are people exspecting Zr1 like times? under 7.30 mins?? Its a freaking Camaro not a corvette it weights 3800lbs and beats cars that are triple or quadruple its price. I am very happy with the time but unless I happen to win the lotto I will never be able to own one or drive one.
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