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Old 10-17-2013, 11:40 PM   #51
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The SSX is a show car that never ran a hot lap. Not a single one. Then there are the Pedders cars that have been the fastest late model muscle cars (Camaro, Challenger, Charger, Mustang) at every event I have been involved with going back to our first 2009 OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car Challenge.

I take these events and results personally. Starting back in 2009 we documented the build of our first Camaro. We published the test results along with our setup details here on C5. It is a how to book for the 5th Gen. It contained everything we did. How hard can it be to beat a team or car in a race when they have published a book for you to follow?

When we beat the other brands 5th Gens at the 2009 OPTIMA following SEMA they were shocked that we had 560 RWHP.They were shocked we had a complete suspension on the car. They didn't like my friend Paul Tracy driving my car. How could anyone be shocked that we showed up with the car that was built on the C5 forum?



We ran in exhibition class and felt great about our road course time until a killer Cobra race car nailed it. Since then I have invited everyone and anyone to come out and beat us. Come and take away our spot as the fastest 5th Gen. We still share our setup information on C5. We are still the fastest. One of these days we'll lose that spot and I'll tip my hat to the victor. Then I'll figure out what we have to do to beat them and reclaim our spot.

Imagine you are an engineer for TEAM Camaro. You are part of the great crew that built the Z/28. You did your homework. You did the testing. You end up with 305/30/19s on your favorite project... just like the 305/30/19s I ran back in 2009. My 305 fitment that some other suspension company made jokes about in 2009 when we posted this thread and said we can run with a Z06 Vette.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37333

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Bring it out to Miller Motorsports Park for NASA Nationals and we'll run you in our ST1 Z06. The engine is basically stock aside from Headers, Intake and Exhaust. It would be interesting to say the least.



Have a great weekend Mike!
We beat ZR1s, Porsches, GT-Rs, $250,000 Pro-Touring cars...



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Unless your sway bar package was designed to get the largest possible tire under the front and rear without rubbing. I think the optimal tire size is going to be 275-295 front and 305-315 rear.

Kind regards,

Looks like the Z/28 went a different direction than the SSX.


I do tell anyone that will listen how good we feel our setup is for the 5th Gen Camaro. I do it in great detail. I tell them we are the fastest. I have never pointed and laughed at another company here on C5 and never will.

The Book of 5th Gen

Pedders 2010 Chevrolet Camaro Suspension Evaluation

Foundational 5th Gen Required Upgrades

Lowering Coils and Coilovers

Trouble Free, OEM Quiet V6 Lowering

Sway Bars

Suspension Bushes

ZL1 / CTS-V Brake Upgrade for the SS

Wheels and Tires

Bush Timing, Alignment and Torque Specs

Pedders USA Camaro 2.0

Lingenfelter L/28 Tech

5th Gen Wheel Hop and Drag Race Setup

Thermal Management

Running Changes Made to the 5th Gen by Chevrolet

Public Track Test #1

Public Track Test #2 Camaro vs. Mustang Supercar Shootout

2013 Strut Mounts, Pedders Coilover Pre-Compression and Ride Height Settings

Looking over the table of contents I see that I need to write a chapter about the 1LE. The #2 car on this list is a 1LE with Permagrin and Supercars. It also has our CTS-V 6 pots with Cobalt Friction pads. The engine mods are limited to heads, cam and headers. It is on OEM wheels and rubber.

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99 ....Danny Popp........34.868 - LPE / Pedders
29....Todd Rumpkey.....35.344 - Raymond's Performance / Pedders
725..Jordan Priestly.....35.429 - JDP Motorsports / Pfadt
8......Ryan Matthews....35.516 - Detroit Speed / JRI
3......Rob Anderson......35.570 - Wretched Motorsports / Pedders
40....Tim Martin............35.997
17....Scott McAdams....36.761 Pedders
13....Mike Rupp............36.797 Pedders

54....Bryan Johnson.....37.326
5......Benjamin Parker..37.576 Pedders

The #3 car belongs to Jordan Priestly (JDP). He has worked his axx off perfecting his Camaro and drove the wheels off of it at C5 FEST. His car is up for sale and some fortunate person is going to be thrilled with it. He listed it as the 3rd fastest Camaro in the country and it is He could have been the 2nd or 1st fastest with a bit of RED

Good night all.
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:25 PM   #52
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Damn... just reread this thread. Tons of great info in it. Pete needs to come back 100%. His info/knowledge is too much.

Hope it's all working out for you man...
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I am looking for a 1LE owner that would like 530 RWHP from an N/A motor. Drop me a PMif you are interested in sharing costs on a project like this.
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I am looking for a 1LE owner that would like 530 RWHP from an N/A motor. Drop me a PMif you are interested in sharing costs on a project like this.
So you want to build a cammed 1LE now? Interesting...
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So you want to build a cammed 1LE now? Interesting...
A bit more than cammed
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I am looking for a 1LE owner that would like 530 RWHP from an N/A motor. Drop me a PMif you are interested in sharing costs on a project like this.

Sent you a PM Pete....got accepted to 341Challenge.com and will need more horsepower to get up the hill, according to Dan from Hotchkis...
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Sent you a PM Pete....got accepted to 341Challenge.com and will need more horsepower to get up the hill, according to Dan from Hotchkis...
RWHP and a pair of these.

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Well yeah, but you supercharged the last car…

What is this for?
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Well yeah, but you supercharged the last car…

What is this for?
What we were able to accomplish with the Lingenfelter L/28 and Bruce Raymond's Camaro blew peoples minds. I never liked the additional nose weight of a blown Camaro. You can see that in the handling differences in the ZL1 and 1LE. You see the benefits of less nose even more in the Z/28.

In the Z/28 you also see the need for more RWHP. The 1LE is no different and needs more power because it is a bit heavier.
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What we were able to accomplish with the Lingenfelter L/28 and Bruce Raymond's Camaro blew peoples minds. I never liked the additional nose weight of a blown Camaro. You can see that in the handling differences in the ZL1 and 1LE. You see the benefits of less nose even more in the Z/28.

In the Z/28 you also see the need for more RWHP. The 1LE is no different and needs more power because it is a bit heavier.
I understand; I'm with you 100%. I meant what do you plan on doing with the project since you are looking to share costs?
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Maybe a good question would be about what is happening to the bottem and probably in pm
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I understand; I'm with you 100%. I meant what do you plan on doing with the project since you are looking to share costs?
This 'guy' is new to the Chevy retail world, but has a great history in NASCAR. They want a show case car. Short of a brand new Z/28, the 1LE is the best place to be in a 5th Gen Camaro. Especially is it is headed to the FEST.
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I would throw my hat in that ring but I doubt I could comfortably keep my end of the finances...

Glad to see you here though Pete.

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Dropspeed gets credit for using our 220033 rear coils with the 1LE front coils first on a 1LE. His track time results confirms this works well while preserving OEM ride quality.

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The money is in Sub-frame bushes, Radius and a 32mm Z bar. Take the air out of the rear with 220035s, but leave the front alone
I just stumbled across this thread....I actually have 220032s in the front and the 33 in the rear. Are you recommending I go back to stock front springs/height and install a set of 220035s in the rear?

I did run the car with the 32/33 and is was faster.....but that could also be due to the seat time I had in between the first weekend when the car was new to me with less than 1000 miles and going back later in the year.

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I just stumbled across this thread....I actually have 220032s in the front and the 33 in the rear. Are you recommending I go back to stock front springs/height and install a set of 220035s in the rear?

I did run the car with the 32/33 and is was faster.....but that could also be due to the seat time I had in between the first weekend when the car was new to me with less than 1000 miles and going back later in the year.

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No. I would leave them in. They drop the CG slightly and the drop in the rear is critical. In a typical track car rake is highly desirable. The Camaro is a bit nose heavy and not go-cart like in weight. With the rear dropped there is less weight transfer on braking and that make for a more controllable Camaro.
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No. I would leave them in. They drop the CG slightly and the drop in the rear is critical. In a typical track car rake is highly desirable. The Camaro is a bit nose heavy and not go-cart like in weight. With the rear dropped there is less weight transfer on braking and that make for a more controllable Camaro.
Thank you!......From the other thread I am tempted to put a ZL1 front bar on just to get more rotation!

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Thank you!......From the other thread I am tempted to put a ZL1 front bar on just to get more rotation!

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I thought you had a 32mm on the rear?
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I thought you had a 32mm on the rear?
I still have the stock bars front and rear. No other changes to the suspension or bushings at all beside the 32/33 springs.

I will stick to this thread...and make one last post in the other that you don need to respond to there..

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