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Old 10-20-2013, 10:02 PM   #51
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Was it twin turbo stock or not turbo at all? I guess if he's not telling you the year then you won't get that info out of him. There's no such thing as a stock single turbo Supra from 93+. If it was a non-turbo converted to single turbo those numbers sound about right. If it was a stock twin-turbo converted to single, he is probably low balling. Like I said, stock twins with basic upgrades will make around 400rwhp. Most single turbo converted cars make at least 500rwhp+. Those blocks are super stout from the factory.
He won't tell. Meany info or picture to post for you guys. But just bragging to bring enough ponies to handle his tail lights or w.e. All he said on a post was a stock displacement single turbo he might of put the turbo on I remember seeing turbo pipes laying around friends old house garage long ago.
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:56 PM   #52
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Gotta watch the raggedy sleepers...had one walk away from me in my GT. And my GT is faster than your stock 1LE will be. The single turbo will be much faster than the stock twins. Take him to the track and let it ride
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:33 PM   #53
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He won't tell. Meany info or picture to post for you guys. But just bragging to bring enough ponies to handle his tail lights or w.e. All he said on a post was a stock displacement single turbo he might of put the turbo on I remember seeing turbo pipes laying around friends old house garage long ago.
430 is low for a single turbo. Most supra folk don't put single turbos to only get 430whp. Even on low boost 500-515 is realistic. Unless he went N/A-T. Basically took the non turbo supra and got a turbo kit for it. Those make around 430whp but that's about it for them. The factory non turbo motor (2jzge) is not built the same as the turbo motor (2jzgte).
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You consider this an ugly car?



To each their own, but I'd take a Supra any day of the week. With a nicely built 2jzgte you can make high hp while still being reliable at moderate boost



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Old 10-21-2013, 05:04 PM   #55
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You consider this an ugly car?



To each their own, but I'd take a Supra any day of the week. With a nicely built 2jzgte you can make high hp while still being reliable at moderate boost



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Thats professionally built. His car is ugly. That one is done right.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:10 PM   #56
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Toyota Supra 0 to 60 mph and Quarter Mile Times
1983 Toyota Supra 0-60 mph 8.8 Quarter mile 16.6
1984 Toyota Supra 0-60 mph 8.5 Quarter mile 16.5
1986 Toyota Supra 0-60 mph 6.9 Quarter mile 15.2
1988 Toyota Supra 0-60 mph 7.8 Quarter mile16.0
1989 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 6.5 Quarter mile 15.0
1991 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 7.0 Quarter mile 15.4
1993 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 4.5 Quarter mile 12.9
1994 Toyota Supra 0-60 mph 6.8 Quarter mile 15.0
1994 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 5.2 Quarter mile 13.5
1995 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 5.0 Quarter mile 13.3
1997 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 5.0 Quarter mile 13.4

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While supra being lighter and turbo helps it achieve a more respectable time the regular supra is a dog. If you want to race naturally aspirated engines against turbo with a weight advantage too you should be getting what as a prize or offset to his advantage? He obviously thinks his new turbo is the shizzit, well good for him even if he is driving a dog he has of course picked up speed....the only stock setup on this list is the 1993 that matches our speed being a turbo. If he bought a stock set up off a used car or a new aftermarket or what year his supra is what mods he has made you do not know. So yes it would probably be a drivers race, as you have more weight a lack of turbo forced induction. If you were to dump the considerable $10,000 into doing a turbo it would make smoking power in the 700-800 range and you could laugh him off as you would be in the tens or lower. And yes it is all about getting the power to the ground. So if he has not upgraded to handle the power he could line up and scatter the trans and rear from repeated abuse. Or he could eat your lunch if you do not shift right and he has upgraded the turbo to blow the engine more than a stock boost, ( could also blow the engine too lol). Upgrading should always be a complete package, but many never worry as they figure yah take it easy and the axles should live the trans should live long......... Not always the case, and it can end up being expensive. And if you had a turbo you would want to upgrade your axles, and the trans clutches eventually along with some other suspension work and tuning or just be a tire shredding nightmare going nowhere fast. P.s. being a raggedy turd the chances he has had it on a dyno........zero to zero.
I think the Camaros 2 extra cylinders make up for the turbocharging on the Supra. Anyways, watch out, they aren't that slow stock and if it is really a single turbo, beware.............
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Some people here don't seem to realize that even the crappiest example of a fourth generation turbo Supra is still going to be worth upwards of $20,000. Stock ones in good condition go for $30,000+
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Old 10-21-2013, 06:21 PM   #58
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Some people here don't seem to realize that even the crappiest example of a fourth generation turbo Supra is still going to be worth upwards of $20,000. Stock ones in good condition go for $30,000+
IMO not many have actually seen a supra run. Sometimes you have to stop drag racing on the Internet. Supras destroy the streets in all the big events. A lot are starting to build gtrs now but supras are still nasty!
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Old 10-21-2013, 06:58 PM   #59
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IMO not many have actually seen a supra run. Sometimes you have to stop drag racing on the Internet. Supras destroy the streets in all the big events. A lot are starting to build gtrs now but supras are still nasty!
Yes, I agree. I very rarely see mk4 Supras, but usually when I do it's not a question of if they are fast, it's a question of how fast. The amount of 800+ hp supras running around is absurd. People buy these cars specifically to build them into highway super car hunters and boy are they good at it. This is one of my favorite examples

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Old 12-19-2013, 09:34 AM   #60
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If his Supra is built and setup correctly even if it looks raggedy I would take the Supra in a race. I had a friend in college that had a 94 model that he did a single turbo swap and it made 900hp at I think 21psi. Granted he drove it around town at 9psi, but that was a sick car. I still like the ZL1 and think the best answer is to get him on the track and see what they both do!
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:01 AM   #61
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Yes, I agree. I very rarely see mk4 Supras, but usually when I do it's not a question of if they are fast, it's a question of how fast. The amount of 800+ hp supras running around is absurd. People buy these cars specifically to build them into highway super car hunters and boy are they good at it. This is one of my favorite examples



It's hard to tell dark/camera but did the front end come up a bit when he punched it?

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Old 12-19-2013, 10:42 AM   #62
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Some people here don't seem to realize that even the crappiest example of a fourth generation turbo Supra is still going to be worth upwards of $20,000. Stock ones in good condition go for $30,000+
If you found one at this price range jump on it. Last ones I looked at wereall 40k plus for a stock TT.

-Before someone asks about my username... I've never owned a supra but I was obsessed with them back when I first started going on forums and I just kept the name. As far as the OP I would advise that you do not mess with a modded Supra without at least 600whp on a camaro
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Why are we bringing a dead thread up.
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Always race a TT Supra from a dig. You might be completely surprised by the outcome even if they have a lot more power than you.
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Old 12-20-2013, 04:37 AM   #68
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2 guys down my block work on a supra. becareful if its modded right it will blow the doors off your zl1
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my h-gas 1800cc VW blew the doors off big block camaros in the 1/4 mile...

something about small engines....
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Laugh at your own risk. Those aren't cars to put down. With the right work they're huge problems in a race. I get his might look to be in bad shape, but I would try riding in it before you agree.

I made that mistake in high school a few years back. The guy I raced had a crap box, dents in the side and ect, but he had serious work under the hood. Might be the case here so play it safe.
The first car I went over 120mph in was a twin turboSupra. Beat a Corvette who had a rolling start on us. I was a 17y old passenger (now 35).Thats when I got the speed bug. It was the GTR of 1995 IMO.
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There is NO way he has 400 horses,considering a twin turbo supra had just over 300. just apply the point and laugh technique.
Lmao. If you don't know what you're talking about, why even bother opening your (figurative) mouth?
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Old 01-04-2014, 02:14 AM   #73
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Camaro vs Supra.


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Old 01-16-2014, 08:47 AM   #74
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There is NO way he has 400 horses,considering a twin turbo supra had just over 300. just apply the point and laugh technique.
in cft we used to have a 1200 hp 2JZ with a single turbo that ran 8.95, now we put that engine in a smaller car (a Honda 2000)

if the car is tuned and Upgraded and it has a 2jz... the supra will smoke you, those engines can make some awesome numbers
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:09 AM   #75
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I may be a camaro guy through and through and swear by that the camaro is a beast (which it is) BUT if you know how to drive and whomever built your car knows what they are doing you can bet on the supra. All comes down to mods and the driver. I was just talking to the mechanics at my family shop this morning about this very thing. Always comes down to if the mods are done right and whom is behind the wheel. Cant fully argue with that.
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