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Old 05-21-2008, 09:25 AM   #1
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My 5th gen and Milford experience

Well just now getting back into the swing of things, and able to think about what we saw and talked about this weekend......

First I'd like to thank everyone at GM for the time spent at Milford..... The weekend was first class. The hotel, food and all were A one. The girls from Carlson took really good care of us. From the time I arrived to the time I left I never wanted or needed a thing. We were truly treated like a VIP.

I was not able to make the dinner on Fri. night…….13hours of delay with a trip to the emergency room was not best way to spend a Friday. However Sat. made up for it all.

We arrived at Milford Sat. morning and as we were waiting to board the bus, who shows up in his first gen copo reproduction. None other than Tom Peters and Sangyup Lee. Wow the day has already started to get interesting. Getting to see Tom again and meeting Sangyup for the first time was an honor.

Well it’s time to board the shuttle and make our way to black lake. I was so excited to be back at the Proving grounds, it doesn’t even look like a test facility. More like a state park. GM does such a great job in preserving the natural beauty that it feels like I’m riding thru the country side. On the way someone spots one of the black camo cars, then there’s two more. By this time everyone has their faces planted against the glass, we all look like a bunch of little kids looking thru the glass of your near by store at Christmas time. Just as everyone sits down two of those cars appear behind us. There they were, finally in real life not just on the computer screen. We finally get to black lake and as we were getting off the bus hear they come like two lions chasing some poor prey (in my mind a Mustang) roaring by with tires squealing leaving a trail of smoke, then they disappear as fast as they showed up.

We walk in and see a u shaped table with all seating prearranged. Fbodfather 2.0 starts the morning with introductions and an overview of the day. Followed by Brett Vivan which by the way was very interested in what we have to say. If anyone had a concern or question he would ask that person to show him not just tell him. All the time this is going on there was a long black curtain dividing the room, not once did I even think what was behind that, however I was getting ready to find out.

We were asked to come test drive some impala’s oh boy right, once I came around the curtain there they were gleaming in the light, 4 cars all different colors most of us just kinda stood there not knowing what to say or react or think. Then one person started to cry then another and another. Once we came back to earth everyone split up to the different cars. I went over to one, walked around and around then stopped at the front. Thinking this thing looks like it was getting to pounce on anything that drives by. I walked over asked if I could sit in the car and was given permission. I tell you from opening the door to sitting in the seat it felt like I was home, this was a Camaro no doubt about it. The attention to detail in the cars was truly amazing, remember these are just the ivery cars. What are the production cars going to look like? I think man I can’t wait to have one in my driveway, this is going to be freaking awesome.

Soon we were called back to the table. Now I can't say much after that point but I can tell you that the team working on this car understands how important this is. They get it they feel the same as we do. Not only do they know how important it is to GM but they know how important it is to us. The emotion that has gone into this car is very evident, and it shows. The Camaro team has done an awesome job putting this car together, every little detail, even the most trivial thing as been thought about. It is hard to explain the amount of passion I've seen this weekend.



To the cars........I can't tell you much. But I can tell you this

There were three cars. Two camo cars, both V-8. Even though these cars were development cars and were very rough around the edges they were still impressive. To go from the concept car last year to what we saw this past weekend was incredible. This goes to show the attention to detail that has gone into this car.

The other was a V-6 and I can tell you this it isn’t the grocery getting V-6 your use to. I can only use one word, AWESOME…. It rivals some of the F-Cars of the past……You will not be disappointed at all.

There will be 8-10 colors Red, black and .....................................

Oh btw those are not the real headlights......you will be pleased on what you see.............

In closing IT is going to be worth the wait…….I think most will be pleased with what is going to be offered and the car that you will see…….

Oh the jet that awesome Bob was in, I was told that it was a German fighter……….I wish you could have seen the reaction from Cheryl Pilcher…….priceless……..

To Elie the Iceberg melted along with Kevin…………

For the people that have their doubts, don’t worry. The team that GM has put together couldn’t be any better. They are Camaro……….

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Old 05-21-2008, 11:15 AM   #2
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Sounds like everyone had an increadible time! I know I would have been one of those shedding tears of joy when walking passed the curtain. To be honest, I don't think the team could have pulled me away when going back to the table. They would have needed a crowbar to get me outta the car!! hehehe

Again, congratulations on your experience. I'm VERY happy for you!
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Old 05-21-2008, 11:35 AM   #3
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Thanks for the lengthy response. I know that the lack of information really bugs some people but I understand the whole NDA thing and all, so the next best thing are the reassurances from enthusiasts that this will be worth the wait. Thanks!
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:03 PM   #4
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yeah its worth the wait and i wish more of us could have been able to be part of such a priceless time.
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:07 PM   #5
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thanks for everything. can't wait till aug or sept. which ever it is they decide to reveal it.
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:26 PM   #6
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:40 PM   #7
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There will be 8-10 colors Red, black and .....................................
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Love that too, but i'm praying they offer Hugger Orange w/ black stripe package.....:5thgenvert:
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:13 PM   #10
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The other was a V-6 and I can tell you this it isn’t the grocery getting V-6 your use to. I can only use one word, AWESOME…. It rivals some of the F-Cars of the past……You will not be disappointed at all.
The base V8 is going to be an absolute monster "IF" the V6 is nearly as fast as my '96 LT1.
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The base V8 is going to be an absolute monster "IF" the V6 is nearly as fast as my '96 LT1.
I think that will be true of a "high feature V-8" but probably not the base V-8? They are out to beat the mustang, challenger, and charger out of the gate correct? So, theoretically, they would want the base V-8 to be able to outperform these guys while still being the affordable camaro we knew in the past. The high end V-8 which may be SS, whatever they decide to call it can be the top dog gunning for the Mustang GT500, etc.

No doubt reading these latest threads is making my mind wander....
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With all the hype about this V6 i'm definitely gonna have to test drive one of these.
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I am so psyched about the camaro coming that I can hardly wait. But, with all the hype about the V-6 I'm just hoping that the base V-8(which I WILL be getting) is at LEAST 400hp. I have driven a bunch of ls2 GTO's and while they are fast, i'm hoping the camaros numbers will be better. Black on Black 6sp!!!
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The base V8 is going to be an absolute monster "IF" the V6 is nearly as fast as my '96 LT1.
I agree with you completely!

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I think that will be true of a "high feature V-8" but probably not the base V-8? They are out to beat the mustang, challenger, and charger out of the gate correct? So, theoretically, they would want the base V-8 to be able to outperform these guys while still being the affordable camaro we knew in the past. The high end V-8 which may be SS, whatever they decide to call it can be the top dog gunning for the Mustang GT500, etc.
The LT1 was/is an amazing engine...and the LS1 is amazing, too (each having their strengths and weaknesses). You can't even begin to deny that. In fact, they were/are very powerful engines. So I would say that if the V6 does in fact give 4th Gen LT1s a run for their money...then the base V8 will definitely be quite the monster. Also, the Challenger and Charger aren't the Camaro's direct competitors. The Mustang definitely is...and I believe that the V6 Camaro might scare current Mustang GTs...
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The LT1 was/is an amazing engine...and the LS1 is amazing, too (each having their strengths and weaknesses). You can't even begin to deny that. In fact, they were/are very powerful engines. So I would say that if the V6 does in fact give 4th Gen LT1s a run for their money...then the base V8 will definitely be quite the monster. Also, the Challenger and Charger aren't the Camaro's direct competitors. The Mustang definitely is...and I believe that the V6 Camaro might scare current Mustang GTs...
I hope that this will be the case.
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How was the Focus Group Members Selected?

I am a first time poster but have been following the numerous threads for months on the progress of the 5thgen Camaro. Thanks so much to everyone for all the info. And I too am xnxiously awaiting its arrival!

May have convinced my husband and son to trailer his just finished restoration on his 1970 Z28 to Indy. Would be awesome for him to drive it on the Indy Track. While I get my first glimpse of my next car.

Anyways my question is how did GM selection individual for participation in the Focus Group for the Camaro development? Sorry if this was already published in a much earlier blog but I've searched and couldn't find the answer.

Also would like to know if rally stripes were part of the options discussed Milford experience?
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PLEASE JUST CONFIRM THAT NAVY-BLUE (METALLIC HOPEFULLY) IS IN THE LINE-UP!
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I am a first time poster but have been following the numerous threads for months on the progress of the 5thgen Camaro. Thanks so much to everyone for all the info. And I too am xnxiously awaiting its arrival!

May have convinced my husband and son to trailer his just finished restoration on his 1970 Z28 to Indy. Would be awesome for him to drive it on the Indy Track. While I get my first glimpse of my next car.

Anyways my question is how did GM selection individual for participation in the Focus Group for the Camaro development? Sorry if this was already published in a much earlier blog but I've searched and couldn't find the answer.

Also would like to know if rally stripes were part of the options discussed Milford experience?
The 15 were picked out of a group who submitted essays on a particular GM website. The essay (I believe) was no more than 500 words describing how you are a Camaro enthusiast. GM read them and picked their people to represent all types of Camaro buyers.
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I just got my hugger orange Camaro with black stripes.

It was 97 cents at Wall Mart...but i still do donuts with it...
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Wow.. you chosen few have contributed much to the final product...
it is only right that they show you how much they listened. Congrats...

I can't wait...
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Just thought I'd throw a little information out there on the latest from Road and Track: http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6814

The comments for that article is where I found this site and BOY am I glad I did. I love Camaro's, always have, always will. Never had the ability or pleasure to own a brand new one, and when they killed them off, I thought I never would. Thankfully, in the years since, I've pushed myself in my career, am now a network engineer, and have been saving in anticipation of the new Camaro.

I'm not going to buy the SS though (that's the "base" V8 that will come out first) No no, I'm waiting for the Z/28... supercharged, rumored to be around 450-500HP. Yeah... I'm waiting for that... yeah...

Great site guys! Going to grab another beer and DEVOUR all content on this site RIGHT NOW.


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"Slated to bow in the first quarter of 2009 as an early 2010 model, it's expected that the Camaro will be offered in three trim levels — LS, LT and SS. The base LS may be powered by Chevy's 3.5-liter pushrod V-6 making about 220 bhp. The LT models would use the overhead-cam direct-injected 3.6-liter V-6 developing upward of 300 bhp, while the SS will be powered by a 6.2-liter LS3 V-8 (similar to that found in the Corvette) tuned to produce around 400–405 bhp. A year after launch, Chevy will introduce a convertible version and after that a high-performance Z28 model with a super-charged 6.2-liter sibling to the Corvette ZR1's LS9 motor known as the LSA. That engine would make somewhere in the neighborhood of 480–500 bhp and is similar to the engine used in the upcoming Cadillac CTS-V."

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