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Old 10-23-2013, 12:35 AM   #35
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On a non lowered car do you still need the eccentric bolts for the alignment. I got the pedders insert and pfadt trailing arms toe rods zl1 sways and upper control arm bushings curious about the eccentric bolts
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:33 AM   #36
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On a non lowered car do you still need the eccentric bolts for the alignment. I got the pedders insert and pfadt trailing arms toe rods zl1 sways and upper control arm bushings curious about the eccentric bolts
How much are you lowered? 1" is ok but approaching 1 1/2" you will need the eccentrics in order to dial in the camber back to zero!
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:58 AM   #37
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On a non lowered car do you still need the eccentric bolts for the alignment. I got the pedders insert and pfadt trailing arms toe rods zl1 sways and upper control arm bushings curious about the eccentric bolts
No, you don't need them. Plenty of adjustment available with the OEM bolts.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:33 AM   #38
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I missed that he asked about NON lowered. What I said is true, it just didn't answer his question!
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:01 AM   #39
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I missed that he asked about NON lowered. What I said is true, it just didn't answer his question!
You answered his question. Anything that's lowered pass 1" will need the eccentrics bolts. Since he's not lowered at all he's good to go! Plus, you also answered a future question if he does lower his car!
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:10 AM   #40
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How much are you lowered? 1" is ok but approaching 1 1/2" you will need the eccentrics in order to dial in the camber back to zero!
you answered it perfectly.
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:40 AM   #41
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Glad craddle incerts are working out. I was debating on those or full bushings as I alot x alot. Dont want it to firm on bumps or noise, if any so think incerts will do for me. Pedders for sure but I hear Whiteline are just as good and not squishy, and cheaper
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:35 PM   #42
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Glad craddle incerts are working out. I was debating on those or full bushings as I alot x alot. Dont want it to firm on bumps or noise, if any so think incerts will do for me. Pedders for sure but I hear Whiteline are just as good and not squishy, and cheaper
Man if you're auto crossing I would go with full bushings! The Pedders inserts are good but for any kind of track use the inserts may not do the job! With the full bushings I really didn't notice any increase in NHV, maybe a hair but nothing to worry about!
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Nice parts bo white! I think all will be great with the inserts. Should have them friday. Thank you BMR for the great service.
I think you will be fine and if/when you decide to make a some more power you can always upgrade to our BMR full rear cradle bushings (BK024) and sell the inserts here on the forums. If there is anything we can help you out with let us know.

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On a non lowered car do you still need the eccentric bolts for the alignment. I got the pedders insert and pfadt trailing arms toe rods zl1 sways and upper control arm bushings curious about the eccentric bolts
On a non-lowered car there is no need to get the aftermarket eccentric bolts because there will be ample amounts of adjustment from the factory hardware to be able to get the alignment specs you are looking for.
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:54 AM   #44
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Glad craddle incerts are working out. I was debating on those or full bushings as I alot x alot. Dont want it to firm on bumps or noise, if any so think incerts will do for me. Pedders for sure but I hear Whiteline are just as good and not squishy, and cheaper
I think ultimately a full bush would be the best but IMO it's all about what fits in your budget. Full bush is going to cost more and is much more of an install (higher labor cost if you don't do them). I haven't had any issues with inserts so far. They've worked for me but I only do about 2 or 3 Auto-X a year and 4 - 5 drag strip days. One day I'll probably do a full bush but I have other places to spend my mod money right now.

You can always go with an insert and if they don't work out you can sell them and get a full bushing.
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Old 10-24-2013, 01:18 PM   #45
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I think ultimately a full bush would be the best but IMO it's all about what fits in your budget. Full bush is going to cost more and is much more of an install (higher labor cost if you don't do them). I haven't had any issues with inserts so far. They've worked for me but I only do about 2 or 3 Auto-X a year and 4 - 5 drag strip days. One day I'll probably do a full bush but I have other places to spend my mod money right now.

You can always go with an insert and if they don't work out you can sell them and get a full bushing.
Thanks.My shop says same.At 420 hp incerts fine,but not decided yet. Probably doing XA coilovers or Pfadts. Unless I bite on a deal on supercars
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Old 10-24-2013, 04:52 PM   #46
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Thanks.My shop says same.At 420 hp incerts fine,but not decided yet. Probably doing XA coilovers or Pfadts. Unless I bite on a deal on supercars
I was told the same thing. Unless you are racing, you do not need full inserts for street use, even with 500-550 whp. Coil overs make a big difference coupled with suspension bushings. Its all about what you are doing
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:31 PM   #47
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I can feel the rear flex at 570 so maybe 550 is the break over point.
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I was told the same thing. Unless you are racing, you do not need full inserts for street use, even with 500-550 whp. Coil overs make a big difference coupled with suspension bushings. Its all about what you are doing
Yeah I do auto x and push it, but incerts should be fine. However If I do an S/C, THATS ANOTHER MATTER..LOL
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Xa coilovers are def something I will pm pedders for this spring.
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I can feel the rear flex at 570 so maybe 550 is the break over point.
Pedders says their inserts are good up to about 500 rwhp.
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Got the inserts from bmr. just waiting upon my pfadt trailing arm package. Will install next weekend and let you guys know how it performs.
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