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Old 10-23-2013, 04:11 PM   #43
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OMG it has DOT approved R compound tires form the factory? WTF!!! Thats sooo gay! Its okay if you put them on the car on your own, but as a factory option this makes me think GM was cheating at the ring!
Agreed. I read all the posts on the Honda forum that the OP posted. It appears most of the argument was that the Z/28 was running non factory tires, which in fact is false as we all know.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:50 PM   #44
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:08 PM   #45
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:27 PM   #46
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Lol how can they really hate such a piece of engineering?.. I talked to a GT500 owner at a local car meet and told him I came there with my Camaro and we really respected each others cars. I can respect a tuner, if its tasteful. The fact is though a new Z/28 WILL run down a Porsche 911, stock for stock.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:27 PM   #47
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http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=3175025&page=9 post 201 is mine. they already know we are reading the thread if you read some of the pages, so can't say i dragged us into it
been a member there for 7 years almost, started on hondas. glad i got out of that world.

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Lol how can they really hate such a piece of engineering?.. I talked to a GT500 owner at a local car meet and told him I came there with my Camaro and we really respected each others cars. I can respect a tuner, if its tasteful. The fact is though a new Z/28 WILL run down a Porsche 911, stock for stock.
exactly. thats what I said in my post over on Honda:

"Everyone posting negatively is an idiot. The true definition of 'haters gonna hate.' As a car enthusiast, despite the Mustang being my 'rival' to my Camaro SS I just bought (and all the LS powered GMs I've owned), I acknowledge when the Ford achieves something. The guys acknowledging the impressive run quoted above are true car lovers, those that see what an achievement this is. The rest of you are what defines a Honda fan boy, and why you all have such a bad rep."
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:28 PM   #48
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I was amazed at the hate on the honda forum.

Not verbatim, but to sum it up, I basically read...

"60K for a 7:37 Camaro? I'd much rather have a 90-140K AWD Turbo car, thats so much reasonable/awesome! Did you see the Motor Trend 0-60 stats for the GT-R? I have such an boner!

OMG it has DOT approved R compound tires form the factory? WTF!!! Thats sooo gay! Its okay if you put them on the car on your own, but as a factory option this makes me think GM was cheating at the ring! GM is always cheating at the ring! Put a regular 305 tire on the Z/28 and it should add 15 seconds and be super slow! I won't mention the fact that GT3's and RS's had similar tires from the factory but P-cars are awesome....

Who cares that its a powerful and fast car thats fun to drive and can hold 4 passangers + trunk space; Camaro's have bad interiors and are for stupid Rednecks! 60K for a 7:30's car is a rip off!!! GTR's and 911 Turbo S's are so awesome!!....."
hahaha this is great... I was thinking the same thing. GTR and Porsche fanboys
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:31 PM   #49
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:46 PM   #50
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I found this funnny... but in the end of the day people look at our cars and jaws drop. When people look at their modded/stanced/cambered honda's they laugh. Most Honda people (cant say all because one of my closest friends has a nice Prelude and isnt a complete asshat) think they can add 5K into their 95 Honda Civic hatch, swap in a bseries and turbo it and run 10's... then end up running high 14's.

Ive got tons of stories of boosted honda's showing up on saturday night running their mouth and end up owned by either my 1LE or id really needed my 615whp 92 Jetta VR6 Turbo.

In the end Honda Tuners can only do one thing... Run their mouths because their cars dont do alot of running.
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:21 PM   #51
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I dont understand why anyone would give a shit what tire is on it? How is that an unfair advantage, when the fastest cars in the world, are AWD? If Chevy were to make the Camaro AWD and put P-Zeros on, is that fair, or would they bitch about that? The car is not designed to be a daily driver, so who cares if it has an 80 wear rating. Even if they didnt come stock with R compound, the people that race that car, would have R tires on it. Would haters bitch then?
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No hate here. Respect. But also a bit of disappointment. I think the next gen Camaro will make a much better Z/28 platform. It will have to be at least 300-400 pounds lighter if the new Mustang's weight estimates from Ford are true. Maybe the next time GM will make it more affordable too.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:07 AM   #54
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i think at 65k it is plenty affordable

hell it has $8k brake setup on it.

Z06s came out at what 75k in 2006? Optioned out they approached 100k

Yeah the price sucks when a regular SS can be had in the 30s. But it seems the only thing the same are the body panels
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i think at 65k it is plenty affordable

hell it has $8k brake setup on it.

Z06s came out at what 75k in 2006? Optioned out they approached 100k

Yeah the price sucks when a regular SS can be had in the 30s. But it seems the only thing the same are the body panels
The Z/28 price has yet to be announced. BTW, by reading some posts on the Honda forum, you can easily tell the average age is 16.7 years and the average IQ barely rivals that of a pogo stick.
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i think at 65k it is plenty affordable

hell it has $8k brake setup on it.

Z06s came out at what 75k in 2006? Optioned out they approached 100k

Yeah the price sucks when a regular SS can be had in the 30s. But it seems the only thing the same are the body panels
Affordable depends on how much money you have ... even a free car isn't affordable if you don't have the cash to pay for gas & insurance.


But given what you're getting, the Z/28 would be 'reasonably priced' at 65 grand. I can even see them asking as much as 75 for it. Beyond that it'll feel like a cash grab to me.
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