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Old 10-24-2013, 06:13 AM   #26
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OP- please read this before you do anything:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39955

This is coming from a guy who builds ELITE level racing engines for all forms of racing. He knows his s**t.
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:09 AM   #27
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Every car I have ever bought new, I drove like I stole it. An old race car builder told me to do this and my rings would seat properly and I would never a lick of trouble from the motor.

I know that this is a touchy subject but from my personal experience, this is the way to go. Others may disagree.
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:44 AM   #28
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Well guys thanks for all the input on braking in the camaro. The one thread on
braking in a engine hard was a interesting read and clarified a bunch of my
thoughts on the importance of seating the rings and getting a good seal. I
never own a aluminum block and just didn't know. Thanks guys
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:04 AM   #29
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Well guys thanks for all the input on braking in the camaro. The one thread on
braking in a engine hard was a interesting read and clarified a bunch of my
thoughts on the importance of seating the rings and getting a good seal. I
never own a aluminum block and just didn't know. Thanks guys
Wow, did all those hints go right over your head?? It's BREAK, not brake. Brakes are for stopping....
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:18 PM   #30
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Every car I have ever bought new, I drove like I stole it. An old race car builder told me to do this and my rings would seat properly and I would never a lick of trouble from the motor.

I know that this is a touchy subject but from my personal experience, this is the way to go. Others may disagree.
I do not disagree.

OP, say "brake in" one more time and I will fly over your car and poop towards it. Kidding.

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Old 10-24-2013, 12:43 PM   #31
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Wow, did all those hints go right over your head?? It's BREAK, not brake. Brakes are for stopping....
Thanks JJ, what can i say i suck at spelling! On the flip side I didn't join to get spelling lessons but to get good information on breaking in the LS3. I have to say its way more fun to break in like the other thread said to
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Old 10-24-2013, 01:36 PM   #32
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I just drove it normal... gunned it when needed, cruised it when needed. I had no specific method to its 'break in' period... i do believe i will have 0 issues in the future, and if i do, GM will probably place the blame on my tune, headers, intake, or SC'r at this point lol
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:31 PM   #33
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Thanks JJ, what can i say i suck at spelling! On the flip side I didn't join to get spelling lessons but to get good information on breaking in the LS3. I have to say its way more fun to break in like the other thread said to
No problem, just giving you a little lip. I drove mine "somewhat" easy for the first few 100 miles, then started letting her have it. Changed the oil at 1200 miles and then again at 2000 when I installed cam.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:30 PM   #34
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Park it out in Brown Town over night for a night or two. IT WILL GET BROKEN IN. BEST DAM BREAKIN YOU'LL EVER HAVE
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:23 AM   #35
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engines should be broke in hard. rear ends should be broke in lightly. the best truck my family ever owned was a 85 Suburban with a 350. It was pulling a huge camper all over the country for the 1st 50,000miles on the thruway from the day it pulled off the lot. The think got 17mpg and had more power than any 350 or 5.3l iv ever drove. that thing would roast the tires with ease.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:58 PM   #36
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Park it out in Brown Town over night for a night or two. IT WILL GET BROKEN IN. BEST DAM BREAKIN YOU'LL EVER HAVE
No thanks I will never park my car in the city! Uncle had a 67 442 stolen, my cuz had a 69 427 vette stolen in jamaica! We haven't had good look in NY!
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:26 PM   #37
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I followed the hard method described in the link (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39955) when I got my car. Put a dirty side catch can on at around 35 miles and the "clean" side 1LE air oil separator at around 90. Hit 140 before 200 miles on the interstate at 05:30 on a Sunday morning. Oil changed at 1000 miles as well as differential fluid. I have over 5500 miles now and can't keep the grin off my face when guys ask if I have a supercharger because it runs so well and just pulls and pulls and pulls.

Break in your cars however you want to is all I am going to say, but I KNOW how I am going to do it from now on to my new cars.
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:34 PM   #38
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I'm pretty sure your car came with a handy manual. My manual states, do not drive over 80mph. Do not make hard starts or stops and do not pass 4000rpm for 1500 miles.
My 2012 2SS I drove it like I stole it with 18 miles on it. I was happy to get rid of that car just under 4k miles.
My new car 2014 2SS 1LE. I did exactly what I typed up top and I sure can go sideways when I hit second in this one. The other would just give a chirp. I personally think it made a big difference.
Oh and there is no need to change your oil until 5000 miles
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:08 AM   #39
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I'm pretty sure your car came with a handy manual. My manual states, do not drive over 80mph. Do not make hard starts or stops and do not pass 4000rpm for 1500 miles.
My 2012 2SS I drove it like I stole it with 18 miles on it. I was happy to get rid of that car just under 4k miles.
My new car 2014 2SS 1LE. I did exactly what I typed up top and I sure can go sideways when I hit second in this one. The other would just give a chirp. I personally think it made a big difference.
Oh and there is no need to change your oil until 5000 miles
Well you broke the 2nd one in wrong then. Lol. The owners manual is written for the lawyers not the health of the engine.
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:18 AM   #40
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The owners manual is written for the lawyers not the health of the engine.
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Old 11-03-2013, 02:29 PM   #41
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I dumped the synthetic, put in Pennzoil, drove it like I stole it for 500 miles, put Mobil 1 in it, and all is good. The synthetics are slick and won't allow the rings to seat the cross hatch cylinders.
This!
Except I stayed with dino.
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Old 11-03-2013, 07:53 PM   #42
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Oh God, Please make it stop! Seriously guys, we need to start using the search feature. There are literally hundreds of these exact same threads already done.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:58 PM   #43
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Oh God, Please make it stop! Seriously guys, we need to start using the search feature. There are literally hundreds of these exact same threads already done.
Agree, yet I'll add that it's not true that synthetic oil is "too slippery" to allow rings to seat. Please, people, please, read up at bobistheoilguy.com

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Old 11-23-2013, 12:54 PM   #44
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I followed the hard method described in the link (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39955) when I got my car. Put a dirty side catch can on at around 35 miles and the "clean" side 1LE air oil separator at around 90. Hit 140 before 200 miles on the interstate at 05:30 on a Sunday morning. Oil changed at 1000 miles as well as differential fluid. I have over 5500 miles now and can't keep the grin off my face when guys ask if I have a supercharger because it runs so well and just pulls and pulls and pulls.

Break in your cars however you want to is all I am going to say, but I KNOW how I am going to do it from now on to my new cars.
When you installed the catch can on the dirty side at 35 miles on the odometer, and drove it hard afterwards, how much oil did you collect in the next 1000 virgin miles?
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professional engine builders break them in hard. change your oil now, your rear end at 500. I changed my tranny oil over to Amsoil at 1400 or around there and it looked new. do it at 500, 1000 and 1500 on the engine then regular. 91 or higher octane. 93 recommended even by GM.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:57 AM   #46
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GM Manual says to not exceed 4000RPM the first 1000-1500 miles. After that, it wouldn't be a bad idea to change the oil and oil filter with some nice high quality oil and not the Dexos OEM oil. Then....enjoy your 6.2L V8 monster!
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Old 12-27-2013, 09:34 AM   #47
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Never bought a new hot rod. All i ever had was 60"s hot rods. I build a bunch of sm blk and BB that i would brake in for 500 miles. It also depended if i build it on the tight end of the scale or loses end. I would check for any issues in the oil and go hunt for mustangs!
I would make sure drive train was set up to for hard hits.
Thanks for your input i really need to get some miles in. Maybe ill take a good trip up the coast and put some Highway miles in.
My 60s and 70s hot rods were barely streetable so I drove it until it was at full operating temp 10 times. Then I drove it to the dragstrip and made 5 60' passes. After that, it was all out.

I NEVER ran chrome rings as they took forever to seat. File to fit plasma-moly rinds would seat quickly. Engine acceleration as well and deceleration during each warm up run around insured a good ring seat. I ALWAYS primed the motor by driving the oil pump with a 1/2" drive drill and a primer tool that fits in the distributor hole. Spin it until you have oil pressure and your first start is not just on the assembly lube.

I used auto transmission fluid to lube the cylinders while installing pistons. I learned that from a guy that built his own car and he and a partner qualified it for the Indy 500 back in the late 50s. The old guys made their own parts, so they knew what they were talking about.
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professional engine builders break them in hard. change your oil now, your rear end at 500. I changed my tranny oil over to Amsoil at 1400 or around there and it looked new. do it at 500, 1000 and 1500 on the engine then regular. 91 or higher octane. 93 recommended even by GM.
Reher-Morrison breaks in the motors on the engine dyno. Warm it up, put it on a load, let it cool. CRANK it!

If you build your own motor, PRIME the oil pump and motor with a 1/2" drive drill and proper tool. Assembly lube only work so much. Get oil pressure BRFORE you ever crank it. Your cylinder walls and camshaft (especially a non-roller) will thank you.
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If you are truly interested in break-in (and all the other wonderful features of your high performance LS3 engine), READ THIS:

http://www.camarohomepage.com/ls3/

Among the many interesting tidbits shared by the GM engineers that designed the LS3 is that the piston skirts are coated with a polymer designed to wear away during break-in. New engines are built with pistons that have a 2 micron positive fit in other words, it's an "interference fit" I.e., over tight so that once the polymer wears away, the post-break in fit of piston and piston rings to cylinder wall is optimized. So.....

You can listen to the opinions on the internet or.....

You can listen to the very smart people who designed your engine and test it to last past 150,000 miles of abuse by a "95th percentile" customer.

Think about this.

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My car had 11 miles on it before I was doing donuts on the rev limiter. Then a bunch of high rpm pulls with long decel's. That's not how I drive but I know the result from years of working on these motors.

The engineers are just that- over thinking people.

Through the years of when the LS motor first came out I've seen 1 thing over/over and still see it.

Car gets broken in by the manual, easy driving for 500-1000 miles= oil consumption problems, low on power. Yes, some are fine

Owner drives hard off the lot, races or just drives stupid with it- very low to no oil consumption, higher hp on the dyno. Longivity not affected.

For our new LS engine builds- non factory parts/specs= get new engine up to temp, hammer down on the dyno under heavy load while the headers are glowing red. Do multiple pulls while tuning it in. Motor's always burn clean with no issue's.

This is just my opinion from experience of what I've seen through the years.
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