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Old 11-03-2013, 05:04 PM   #1
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Bent front fender?

I have a 2010 SS. Bought it used with just 5,000 miles on it, no accidents reported. I noticed when I first bought it that the passenger side front fender, where the bumper meets the fender, was slightly bent outward [check out the photo - it's the one on the right side]. I didn't really think much of it, but today while washing my car, I noticed if you look from the door area, it looks pretty janky. I looked in the wheel well and noticed right where the bent area is, there's a screw hole hidden behind the wheel well. But there isn't a hole in the wheel well for the screw to attach to, so I'm not sure how that would mount on there unless a hole was drilled. Is this something I could take to my dealer and have them fix up real quick? Or is it normal? I personally think it would be sort of weird to be normal, but I really don't know...

I did a search for this topic and didn't see anything that matched. Sorry if this has already been discussed previously. Thanks for the help!
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that's not normal something happened there
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Your bumper cover is warped. They may have bumped into something.
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:15 PM   #4
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:23 PM   #5
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Your bumper cover is warped. They may have bumped into something.
There's a really tiny scrape on that side of the car, but it's so small, and it's not really near that exact area of the bumper. Doesn't look like it would have been from an impact or anything. Looks more like it was hit by a rock from the road or something. And what about that missing screw on the inside of the wheel well?

If it's warped, how does that get fixed?
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There's a really tiny scrape on that side of the car, but it's so small, and it's not really near that exact area of the bumper. Doesn't look like it would have been from an impact or anything. Looks more like it was hit by a rock from the road or something. And what about that missing screw on the inside of the wheel well?

If it's warped, how does that get fixed?
Your inner wheel well black plastic pretty much reinforces the bumper cover. Check to make sure everything is screwed together correctly.
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:32 PM   #7
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Your inner wheel well black plastic pretty much reinforces the bumper cover. Check to make sure everything is screwed together correctly.
That's what I was saying in my original post [sort of]. I can see the screw hole with nothing in it, but I don't see a spot in the wheel well for the screw itself. Is there any way it could have shipped from the factory without that screw? It appears to be aligned correctly. Just that one spot doesn't have a screw in it like it does on the driver's side. I understand that a previous accident isn't out of the question because a Carfax only shows so much, but I don't see any sign of damage where it would have caused the bumper to come apart like that.
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Bent front fender?

It definitely didn't leave the factory like that. The entire cover was probably replaced or repaired.
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Use one side wheel well to reference the other.Whats on one side should have identical on the opposite.
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You say you bought it used. Maybe the previous owner had a drl harness installed and took it out when he sold it.
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Use one side wheel well to reference the other.Whats on one side should have identical on the opposite.
Of course, I understand that. The only thing that isn't the same is that one screw. But there's no hole in the wheel well for it. I really don't think it was replaced. But I guess I could definitely be wrong.
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You say you bought it used. Maybe the previous owner had a drl harness installed and took it out when he sold it.
Hmm... I'm not sure. It belonged to an old guy, and considering it only had 5,000 miles on it, he obviously rarely drove it. Not too positive that an old dude would even know what a DRL harness is. But I guess anything is possible.
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Does anybody know if this would be a quick fix for my dealer? I'd like to swing by there before work and get it fixed up. Not that it's a huge deal, but I still want it fixed.
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Hmm... I'm not sure. It belonged to an old guy, and considering it only had 5,000 miles on it, he obviously rarely drove it. Not too positive that an old dude would even know what a DRL harness is. But I guess anything is possible.
Apparently all the preowned car sold from the dealer lots , were owned by (Older Folks )
That's an old dealer gimmick , unless off course you know that as a fact
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Apparently all the preowned car sold from the dealer lots , were owned by (Older Folks )
That's an old dealer gimmick , unless off course you know that as a fact
I was gonna say that too.
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I would take a look at the screws (I think there's 4 of them) that run along the top of the fenders. If they seem like they had a ratchet used on them i.e. paint missing from them or if the edges are a little scuffed, then the fender was replaced.
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Apparently all the preowned car sold from the dealer lots , were owned by (Older Folks )
That's an old dealer gimmick , unless off course you know that as a fact
I'm pretty sure it's actually true. I bought the car through a lot where my best friend works as the finance manager, and they got it from a private seller for me [long story]. The private seller was a friend of one of the guys at the lot, and he told my buddy that it belonged to an old guy. He would have no reason to lie because I didn't care who it belonged to before me. I didn't even ask, he just offered the info. So I'm pretty sure it's true. But somewhat irrelevant, I suppose. I'm going to take my car to my dealer this week and have them look at it. If they think it's been in a wreck, I'll just accept it. It drives great and I love it. I just want that fender fixed.
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Hmm... I'm not sure. It belonged to an old guy, and considering it only had 5,000 miles on it, he obviously rarely drove it. Not too positive that an old dude would even know what a DRL harness is. But I guess anything is possible.
Well in some of our cases this would be true. . And I know what a DRL harness is. Age is not an indication of lack of knowledge. Probably the other way around.

I took my rear fascia off and when I put it back on there were some tabs on the side that have to overlap each other. If they don't overlap right the panels wont line up properly. You may need to loosen things up and make sure everything is aligned. Or take it back to the dealer and let them do it.
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I would take a look at the screws (I think there's 4 of them) that run along the top of the fenders. If they seem like they had a ratchet used on them i.e. paint missing from them or if the edges are a little scuffed, then the fender was replaced.
The plot thickens. Just looked really close at both of the wheel wells. There are 3 star-bit screws and one large nut that hold on the bumper assembly. They are all in 100% perfect condition, still painted black. They've definitely never been removed before. But the part that's sticking out has screws that mount behind the wheel well. You can't even get to them without taking off the bumper and somehow accessing the wheel well, too. This might sound crazy, but I think that screw literally just popped off some time in the past 3 years. I'll see what my dealer thinks. But I can almost promise you, this bumper has never been removed...
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Well in some of our cases this would be true. . And I know what a DRL harness is. Age is not an indication of lack of knowledge. Probably the other way around.

I took my rear fascia off and when I put it back on there were some tabs on the side that have to overlap each other. If they don't overlap right the panels wont line up properly. You may need to loosen things up and make sure everything is aligned. Or take it back to the dealer and let them do it.
Yea, I'm definitely going to take it to the dealer. The missing screw is in a completely hidden spot. What would take me all day will probably take them a few minutes. And I don't have the screw either. I'd rather have it done right.
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The plot thickens. Just looked really close at both of the wheel wells. There are 3 star-bit screws and one large nut that hold on the bumper assembly. They are all in 100% perfect condition, still painted black. They've definitely never been removed before. But the part that's sticking out has screws that mount behind the wheel well. You can't even get to them without taking off the bumper and somehow accessing the wheel well, too. This might sound crazy, but I think that screw literally just popped off some time in the past 3 years. I'll see what my dealer thinks. But I can almost promise you, this bumper has never been removed...
No, sorry I should've been more specific. I meant the screws that hold the actual fender to the car. Once you pop the hood you'll be able to see them run along the top of the fender. They are body color 10mm screws. One of the best and easiest to spot indicators that a car has had front end damage repaired is to check if these screws are in pristine condition. When a fender is replaced (or the old one removed for whatever reason) these screws get scuffed up from the ratchet.

I'm bringing this up because I find it strange that the passenger side wheel well liner is missing a hole for one of the torx screw (star shaped). I understand that it is a 2010, and only God knows how many quality control blunders GM has had over the years, but just make sure to cover all your bases. After all, I think it's better to live knowing the truth rather than just being oblivious to it.

In the meantime, check out this video. It'll give you a good idea of how everything should come together.
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OH! Sorry I forgot to mention this before, but I just remembered something that might tell you why that portion of the bumper is sticking out. I believe that sort of popping of that part of the bumper is caused by getting the bottom of the bumper snagged on something when backing off of say something like a parking block.
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I would have the dealership you bought it from Check it out before you mess with it
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