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Old 11-02-2013, 09:21 PM   #1
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Anyone upgrade the supercharger on their LSA?

I'm considering selling one of my SS' and picking up a ZL1 and doing some performance upgrades to it, but I don't want to delve into the bottom end immediately, so I was wondering has anyone here replaced the stock supercharger on their LSA with a larger one? I was looking at D3 Cadillac . com and they offer "ultracharger" (their fancy name for a bigger, better SC) upgrades for CTS-Vs, any other companies offer something similar? Or would I be better off just purchasing a whipple 2.9 tuner kit and doing it custom? Thanks in advance!
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:55 PM   #2
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from here the only other way I would go is to the 2.3 supercharger found on the ls9. if I wanted to put a whipple on something it would be a ss. not a zl1.
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:01 PM   #3
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I was in the same boat as you considering making the same event. There is a lot of information out there. There's a company that does offer an upgrade to a Whipple if you look up CTS-V supercharger upgrade. However, if you do enough of research you're going to come across a lot of two-way streets in the meaning that there are a lot of opinions. After careful consideration I decided that I should just continue working on what I have now. Livernois, LPE, companies like that have upgrade components, but nothing about replacing the actual blower itself. Do even more research, you'll find two things. 1.) One nut on here decided to put a 4.0 Whipple on successfully (somewhat) and 2.) The 1.9L Eaton can put out a lot of power.

What made you think of doing something like this?
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:03 PM   #4
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from here the only other way I would go is to the 2.3 supercharger found on the ls9. if I wanted to put a whipple on something it would be a ss. not a zl1.
Wouldn't work. The LS9 is a completely different motor and that 2.3L is made specifically for that. The LSA is a new motor altogether. Both are 6.2L, but you can't swap blowers and call it a day. It's not like Ford where if you don't like your blower, you can get a Whipple and still be slow.
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:00 AM   #5
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There will be a drop on Magnason 2300 that will bolt right on.We are taking deposits now and they should be ready in dec..Give me a call and ill give you the info...980 521 0722 Thomas
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:25 AM   #6
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I was in the same boat as you considering making the same event. There is a lot of information out there. There's a company that does offer an upgrade to a Whipple if you look up CTS-V supercharger upgrade. However, if you do enough of research you're going to come across a lot of two-way streets in the meaning that there are a lot of opinions. After careful consideration I decided that I should just continue working on what I have now. Livernois, LPE, companies like that have upgrade components, but nothing about replacing the actual blower itself. Do even more research, you'll find two things. 1.) One nut on here decided to put a 4.0 Whipple on successfully (somewhat) and 2.) The 1.9L Eaton can put out a lot of power.

What made you think of doing something like this?
Thanks for the response, I too have been doing a lot of research. The thing is, personally I don't like going into the stock bottom end that much as that's where I see things going very wrong, also things I like about the ZL1 are the magnetic suspension, the stronger axles/drive train and things like that. I believe I would like to go this route so that I can safely make around 800 RWHP keeping boost reasonable and supplementing it with full bolt-ons allowing me to reach those power levels. I want to make something of a Z/28 fighter that will be good on the strip if I needed it to be, but also just dominate on the track. I'm looking at going full Pedders track 2 minus the coilovers but with their springs on the magne-rhetorical dampers.

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Wouldn't work. The LS9 is a completely different motor and that 2.3L is made specifically for that. The LSA is a new motor altogether. Both are 6.2L, but you can't swap blowers and call it a day. It's not like Ford where if you don't like your blower, you can get a Whipple and still be slow.
Really? I believe I had seen many companies offering this upgrade, here is a link to one of those: http://www.fastlaneturbo.com/cts-vzr...erupgrade.aspx

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There will be a drop on Magnason 2300 that will bolt right on.We are taking deposits now and they should be ready in dec..Give me a call and ill give you the info...980 521 0722 Thomas
Thank you for the offer, but I'm not a really a fan of roots blowers, that's part of why I'm looking to change.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:46 PM   #7
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Wouldn't work. The LS9 is a completely different motor and that 2.3L is made specifically for that. The LSA is a new motor altogether. Both are 6.2L, but you can't swap blowers and call it a day. It's not like Ford where if you don't like your blower, you can get a Whipple and still be slow.
Shop in Texas(not sure who else) has been making the 2300 from the ls9 work on the CTSVs for a while now. All this While using the LSA accessories. A buddy of mine from Jersey should have dyno results tomorrow on his.
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Old 11-04-2013, 02:47 AM   #8
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Keep the SS and put some boost on it. Mine makes 570rwhp with a ECS 1500 and LTs.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:48 AM   #9
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When you mentioned a whipple I assumed you just wanted more umph...Just keep in mind this car is 4000lbs and roots work quite well at that weight..If you look on truck forums you dont see much talk about centris...I love my 800plus rwhp my 2300 gives me but im sure I would love a 1500hp centri too lol..If I can help you with anything just ask
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You want 800whp, but you don't want to do anything to the bottom end? Good luck with that one...
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:29 AM   #11
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800rwhp on an LSA isn't bad. You could add twins. Either ditch to stock blower or just compound boost it. Feed the blower with twins.
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You don't want to use a blower as the secondary in a compound setup, they make great primaries, but not secondaries. It's been attempted in the diesel world before, and the blower ends up failing.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:54 AM   #13
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You don't want to use a blower as the secondary in a compound setup, they make great primaries, but not secondaries. It's been attempted in the diesel world before, and the blower ends up failing.
And mustang people have been doing it for years with termis and gt500s without issues. I'm not a huge fan of it, but it is doable and can make good power. I know a guy with a 2008 GT500 with twins. Stock blower and twins makes 850rwhp.
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At that point just ditch the blower, why overcomplicate things? Get an LS3 manifold and a shorter belt, then let her rip.
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At that point just ditch the blower, why overcomplicate things? Get an LS3 manifold and a shorter belt, then let her rip.
I agree, I wouldn't do it on a personal car but if someone wanted to be different or is really into car shows it is an option. Plenty of people just do a blower to pop the hood at shows.
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Very true, it would make a good conversation starter for sure.
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You want 800whp, but you don't want to do anything to the bottom end? Good luck with that one...
What makes you think it would be so hard? It even comes with the same rods as an LSX376-B15, I was looking at running the stage 2 package, except with a whipple instead of KB link: http://d3cadillac.com/ (go to ultrachargers, under CTS-V performance upgrades)
I think I could keep boost down around 16-17 psi if I run full bolt ons as well as the kit, and if I don't hit 800 RWHP I'll go for a bigger cam, then heads and if that still doesn't do it then I'll just go full forged. But I get the feeling 800 RWHP shouldn't be impossible...? Can you link me to some builds where the LSA has gone kaput?
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Ditched the blower & went with twins, TT ZL1
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The LSA doens't have the same rods as the LSX376. The LSA has hyperexplosive everything inside.

Oh, and there's something to drool about up there ^ Nice work man, ADM is fantastic.
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on a twin turbo set up like that one what happens driving in the rain
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The turbos are fine, but the air intakes wouldn't be.
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on a twin turbo set up like that one what happens driving in the rain
Didn't they tell you when you bought your car that Camaro's melt in the rain?
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The turbos are fine, but the air intakes wouldn't be.
You put the K&N water proof panty hose covers on them!
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The LSA doens't have the same rods as the LSX376. The LSA has hyperexplosive everything inside.
Really? "The LSX376-B15 engine uses the tough connecting rods from the Camaro ZL1’s LSA engine, which were designed from the outset for a supercharged engine." -- source: http://www.dragzine.com/tech-stories...at-chevy-perf/

I'm starting to question your information....
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Ditched the blower & went with twins, TT ZL1
So would a regular TT kit work (on a ZL1) if I just put on say an LSXR manifold, some bigger injectors, and the supporting mods?
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