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View Poll Results: What is the worst brand of car you can buy in America (or wherever you are)?
Hyundai/Kia 27 22.13%
Toyota/Scion/Lexus 15 12.30%
Mitsubishi 28 22.95%
Honda/Acura 7 5.74%
Nissan/Infiniti 5 4.10%
Volkswagon/Audi/Porsche 8 6.56%
BMW/Mini 3 2.46%
Mazda 3 2.46%
Mercedes-Benz/Smart 4 3.28%
Subaru 3 2.46%
Saab 17 13.93%
Volvo 2 1.64%
Fiat 12 9.84%
Chrysler/Dodge/Ram 12 9.84%
Ford/Lincoln 4 3.28%
Chevrolet/GMC/Buick/Cadillac (remember what site you're visiting, trolls!) 2 1.64%
(obligatory OTHER category) 4 3.28%
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Old 11-03-2013, 07:59 AM   #26
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Even used lemon law

she just got rear ended in her 2012 jetta
air bags didn't deploy, seatbelt didn't lock up

thinking about suing them for these two reasons
Hope she is okay. Airbags typically won't deploy if she got rear ended unless it slammed her into the car in front of her. Seat belt thing might be an issue but doubtful as well.
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You have Mitsubishi on there twice.
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:37 AM   #28
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Hyundai owns about 32% of Kia, and is listed as the parent company of Hyundai/Kia Group. After sitting in both at a recent auto show, they get my vote as both felt cheap and doors felt like tin cans when closing.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:09 AM   #30
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Saturn definitely needs to be on this poll haha that's who I'd vote for. Got some advice from a mechanic once. "When it turns over 100,000 miles, park it on the side of the road and walk away"
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243,000 miles on my dad's '93 Saturn SW2.
My parents have about 200k on their 96 or 97 SL2 and the car is still going. On the other hand, their 2008 Aura had all sorts of electrical gremlins before the 100k mark. They've now got a new Impala.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:58 AM   #31
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:19 PM   #33
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There are some Nissan's I like, however the Juke is the worst thing I have ever driven. I wouldn't even call it a car. It was absolute horror. I never drove in a Smart (and never will). I have no clue what makes these things so appealing to some...to each his own...I'll stick with performance.
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The title of this thread made me THINK that the article that I've pasted here would be cited... I usually don't give Consumer Reports much credibility, but hey, when it serves my purposes, my desire to show that the blue oval is inferior to the bowtie, then I'm all over it! Look what manufacturer made the list FIVE times here!
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The 10 least reliable cars

These vehicles aren't a smart purchase

Published: October 29, 2013 10:00 AM








Just because a model is reliable, doesn't mean it is recommended by Consumer Reports. Five out of the top 10 most reliable vehicles don't perform well enough in our tests for us to recommend them. The opposite happens as well; some vehicles that score well in our testing are not recommended because they have below average predicted reliability.
Three out of the 10 least reliable vehicles have high-enough test scores to be recommended, but their poor reliability prevents them from reaching that recommended status. So, it's important to look at performance in our tests and reliability, because a high scoring car isn't always a smart purchase choice if it isn't reliable.
Our 2013 Annual Auto Survey reveals the best and worst vehicles in new car reliability based on our subscribers' experiences with 1.1 million vehicles over the last 10 years (2004-2013). Our data provide the basis for our forecasting how the 2014 models are likely to hold up, and reveals the most dependable used cars as well.
The vehicles listed below are the 10 least reliable new cars in our reliability survey. Predicted reliability is typically based on the newest three model years if a model hasn't been redesigned in that period, Models with an asterisk (*) are based on data of one model year only. Click on the vehicles below to visit the model overview pages to see how they performed in our tests and also view a more-detailed look at reliability broken down by 17 potential trouble spots. (Model overview pages are available to online subscribers.)
Least reliable vehicles, listed in order of Ratings score starting with the worst score.
1. Ford C-MAX Energi (Plug-in Hybrid)*
2. Ford Escape (1.6L Ecoboost)*
3. Mini Cooper Countryman
4. Ford C-Max Hybrid
5. Nissan Pathfinder*
6. Volkswagen Beetle
7. Cadillac XTS*
8. Ford Explorer (V6, 4WD)
9. Hyundai Genesis Coupe*
10. Ford Taurus (turbo)*
For more details on our 2013 Annual Auto Survey, including the full list of most and least reliable new cars by vehicle type, see our complete car reliability report. Also, check out our guide to car reliability for more details on new and used car reliability and owner satisfaction.


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There are some Nissan's I like, however the Juke is the worst thing I have ever driven. I wouldn't even call it a car. It was absolute horror. I never drove in a Smart (and never will). I have no clue what makes these things so appealing to some...to each his own...I'll stick with performance.
If you ever want to be scared shitless drive a smart car.... Worst accelerating vehicle I have driven in 45 years. Pulling out you better make sure there are no other cars in sight. I pushed down on the gas and the engine revved up but didn't move for what seemed like 2 or 3 seconds (may not have been that long but it sure felt that way).
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Not that I would pick GM because they make great cars these days, but why put them on this poll if you're just going to call someone a troll if they do? You also have Mitsubishi on there twice. I take it that means you want to sway people to pick them.
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she just got rear ended in her 2012 jetta
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thinking about suing them for these two reasons
Airbags are not supposed to pop during a rear-end collision.
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:00 PM   #38
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I have two Hyundais, both over 90+ miles and still going. Yes there has been a few setbacks with them but what would expect out cars that 12 year olds.
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Honestly I could point out faults with every single brand on this list. Including GM.
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Hope she is okay. Airbags typically won't deploy if she got rear ended unless it slammed her into the car in front of her. Seat belt thing might be an issue but doubtful as well.
thanks, she is a lil banged up, but will be fine. had to take a week off of work to recover
she declined X-rays, but says her chest is acting up
Well She hit her chest on the steering wheel on the steering wheel.

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Airbags are not supposed to pop during a rear-end collision.
Why is this?
my mom hit her chest on the steering wheel pretty bad, Im sure an airbag would have helped

as for my aunt, she hit her head on the column of the passenger side
which has the airbag sign, so I'm guessing it would have been better if she hit an airbag as well
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thanks, she is a lil banged up, but will be fine. had to take a week off of work to recover
she declined X-rays, but says her chest is acting up
Well She hit her chest on the steering wheel on the steering wheel.



Why is this?
my mom hit her chest on the steering wheel pretty bad, Im sure an airbag would have helped

as for my aunt, she hit her head on the column of the passenger side
which has the airbag sign, so I'm guessing it would have been better if she hit an airbag as well
Because when you are hit from behind, the first thing that you hit is the head rest. After that, all the impacts are usually going to be far less severe than if you hit something head on.

However, hitting an airbag is a pretty severe event in and of itself. In a rear end impact, its not hard to believe that it would be worse than hitting a plastic steering wheel mounted on a collapsible column. During a regular front end impact, the airbag is there more to protect you from the windshield & dash that the wheel.
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thanks, she is a lil banged up, but will be fine. had to take a week off of work to recover
she declined X-rays, but says her chest is acting up
Well She hit her chest on the steering wheel on the steering wheel.



Why is this?
my mom hit her chest on the steering wheel pretty bad, Im sure an airbag would have helped

as for my aunt, she hit her head on the column of the passenger side
which has the airbag sign, so I'm guessing it would have been better if she hit an airbag as well
The answer is in physics.


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thanks, she is a lil banged up, but will be fine. had to take a week off of work to recover
she declined X-rays, but says her chest is acting up
Well She hit her chest on the steering wheel on the steering wheel.



Why is this?
my mom hit her chest on the steering wheel pretty bad, Im sure an airbag would have helped

as for my aunt, she hit her head on the column of the passenger side
which has the airbag sign, so I'm guessing it would have been better if she hit an airbag as well
Glad they will be ok.
Instead of the airbags I would be more worried about why the shoulder harnesses didn't catch them sooner.
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There are some Nissan's I like, however the Juke is the worst thing I have ever driven. I wouldn't even call it a car. It was absolute horror. I never drove in a Smart (and never will). I have no clue what makes these things so appealing to some...to each his own...I'll stick with performance.
Weird.. I love my juke.
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Owned 2 Toyota's and will never do so again. Easily the worst cars I've ever had. This is my first GM and I'm pleasantly surprised how much I like it. Owned more Mustangs than anything else.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:07 AM   #46
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I voted for Toyota their cars are nothing more than appliances with no soul.

They also let their quality slip in their quest to knock GM off the top rung a few years ago and now its recall after recall.
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Weird.. I love my juke.
Maybe I had a lemon base model. Rented it in Holland and drove it in Germany for two months. I never had a fear of pulling into the left lane to pass on the Autobahn like I did in this car. It was an automatic and it didn't shift sometimes unless I let up on the gas and reapplied it. It was a nightmare. Glad yours is treating you well.
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Pretty sure Juke has a CVT. That might've been why it didn't feel right to you.
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Not that I would pick GM because they make great cars these days, but why put them on this poll if you're just going to call someone a troll if they do? You also have Mitsubishi on there twice. I take it that means you want to sway people to pick them.
Sometimes, you need to bait them. Is Mitsubishi on there twice?
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