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Old 11-07-2013, 06:19 PM   #301
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Funny theres no trap speed for the fast Challenger fast list on the 1st page..

Did op ever shut him up?
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:50 PM   #302
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Funny theres no trap speed for the fast Challenger fast list on the 1st page..

Did op ever shut him up?
Nah, won't have the chance. My dude with the hemi is stationed in Virginia.. I'm in Cali. Just needed the validation of the camaro community!


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Old 11-19-2013, 08:59 PM   #303
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I would take my old '02 35th anniversary SLP SS over any terminator any day. Everyone talks how the terminators could beat the SS. Yet no one acknowledges it's equal. The SLP as that is also supercharged and just like the SS compared to the gt. The SLP walked the cobra
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:25 PM   #304
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I would take my old '02 35th anniversary SLP SS over any terminator any day. Everyone talks how the terminators could beat the SS. Yet no one acknowledges it's equal. The SLP as that is also supercharged and just like the SS compared to the gt. The SLP walked the cobra
Terminators ran high 12s or faster at 111mph. LS1s, even later ones with the ls6 intake made after 2000.5 ran 12s in hero runs and anywhere near that trap. They are far from equal. And really? You and that g35 guy go to the same ricer school? If the ls was supercharged? What if that Cobra 4.6 displaced 5.7 liters? Lol come on man. If you think that 4th gens were on par in any way to the Terminators, it's purely because of blind brand loyalty. I had a 4th gen. While cheap to modify, as an all around great vehicle, it left a lot to be desired.
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Terminators ran high 12s or faster at 111mph. LS1s, even later ones with the ls6 intake made after 2000.5 ran 12s in hero runs and anywhere near that trap. They are far from equal. And really? You and that g35 guy go to the same ricer school? If the ls was supercharged? What if that Cobra 4.6 displaced 5.7 liters? Lol come on man. If you think that 4th gens were on par in any way to the Terminators, it's purely because of blind brand loyalty. I had a 4th gen. While cheap to modify, as an all around great vehicle, it left a lot to be desired.
The SLP 35th anniversarys were supercharged with complete suspension upgrades. Not a 35th anniversary. But a few of the 3,250 anniversary a made were taken to SLP and worked.not just the regular ones that were 345hp.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:02 AM   #306
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Terminators ran high 12s or faster at 111mph. LS1s, even later ones with the ls6 intake made after 2000.5 ran 12s in hero runs and anywhere near that trap. They are far from equal. And really? You and that g35 guy go to the same ricer school? If the ls was supercharged? What if that Cobra 4.6 displaced 5.7 liters? Lol come on man. If you think that 4th gens were on par in any way to the Terminators, it's purely because of blind brand loyalty. I had a 4th gen. While cheap to modify, as an all around great vehicle, it left a lot to be desired.
And if you think comparing a blown v8 to a naturally aspirated one is anywhere near being accurate maybe your the one with a lot in common with ricer boy. God forbid u compare the sc mustang to the sc camaro. Why that would be too fair. Chevy has always been able to do what ford can't do without forced induction. Which is why the 427 COPO is a even race with the blown 427 cobra jet
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:47 AM   #307
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The whole 03 Cobra vs LS1 F body is not even close to a fair comparison. For one your comparing a 03 model year car to a car that was not in production any more. People try to compare them all the time and IMO its stupid. The two cars are not in the same league nor are they in the same model year. You wouldn't compare a 2010 Camaro SS to a 2009 Mustang GT so I never do understand why people try to do a 03 Cobra vs 02 LS1 F-body. I think the issue comes up because Ford finally after 10 years builds a Mustang that can beat a F body and Ford fan bois finally got to thump their chest. Lets say GM did build a 2003 Camaro and changed nothing from 02. Well you still would not be able to fairly compare them IMO. The Cobra had a starting MSRP of over 33k while a loaded Z28 was around 25k and SS was 28k. The fair comparison for 03 would have been Z28>GT, SS>Mach 1 and the Cobra would have been without a competitor. That being said I think the Mustang was of better quality in every way other than the engine and performance. The whole performance battle between the Mustang and Camaro between 93-02 was a lot like the Vietnam War. GM won all the battles but lost the war.
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:23 AM   #308
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And if you think comparing a blown v8 to a naturally aspirated one is anywhere near being accurate maybe your the one with a lot in common with ricer boy. God forbid u compare the sc mustang to the sc camaro. Why that would be too fair. Chevy has always been able to do what ford can't do without forced induction. Which is why the 427 COPO is a even race with the blown 427 cobra jet
Here's the deal, people like you will always find something. Oh, one is supercharged. The example I'll use ZL1 vs GT500, well the GT500 has a bigger blower/32 valves. The playing field is rarely ever equal. Second of all, what are you talking about a blown 427 Cobra Jet? The original Cobra Jet, the 427 version was not blown. The new Cobra Jet is running the 5.4L with the blower, and soon a 5.0 with the twin turbos. The 427 COPO is naturally aspirated, but the other two optional engines, the 327s are both supercharged. You're trying to swing an invisible argument in your favor, when you don't need to. We can agree to disagree. You can take a 35th Anniversary SLP over a Cobra all day long all you want. One is a factory car, the other is modified aftermarket, as those "supercharger and suspension" options were not parts you can get from a Chevy dealer and even have a warranty on them like on a regular SS. Between a regular SS and a Terminator, I'll take a Termi any time. Even between that supercharged SLP SS, I'll still take a Cobra any time. Between any 5th Gen v8, be it an L99 or the LS3, I'll take that over a Terminator any time. It's more refined, it drives better, almost as fast, and actually has an IRS that someone properly designed to function like it should. I'm far from a Ford fan boy, I buy what the best deal for me at the time is and what suites my needs. If the 1LE was out when I bought my GT, I might have gotten over my visibility and poor driving position issues and bought one, but all I had to decide between was a pre-FE4 SS and a GT. I've owned Infinitis, VWs, Chevys, Nissans, and 1 Ford, I'm far from a brand loyalist. If the new Mustang sucks and I can't fit in it, this would probably my last and only Ford. If the new Camaro fit me, I'll buy it. If Infiniti makes a RWD v8 coupe, I might go back to them. Either way, drive what makes you happy, and happy motoring
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:41 AM   #309
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I think the LS1 was one of the great motors of it's time but I'd easily pick a cobra over a 2002 Camaro. It was the better all around car.

They weren't even made the same year and a cobra cost 10-15k more than a z28.


That's like saying you prefer a 2007 GT500 to a 2006 LS2 GTO.

Another example of a blown ford and n/a gm product that are about the same speed in a straight line, but the gm product costing way less.....

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Old 11-20-2013, 09:50 AM   #310
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Pretty much same here. Im 29 and got a 98 z28 in 2004. When I was growing up mustang gt=weak.
My story is similar, just for the other guys.

I'm 28, bought my '99 GT in 2004.

Sure it is slower than LS1s, and takes a lot of unnatural aspiration to compete with a lightly modded FBody, but that doesn't make it garbage.

I always wanted a Mustang. My parents had an 85 when I was a baby, my dad bought a '72 when I was a junior, and the 260 hp in the '99 made for a fun to drive, relatively quick first 5sp car.

I've gone 13.6 with tires, gears, and partial exhaust.

LS1 fast? No.
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Old 11-20-2013, 11:53 AM   #311
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They weren't even made the same year and a cobra cost 10-15k more than a z28.


That's like saying you prefer a 2007 GT500 to a 2006 LS2 GTO.

Another example of a blown ford and n/a gm product that are about the same speed in a straight line, but the gm product costing way less.....
About the same in a straight line? 5mph trap difference and a half second is not about the same.
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About the same in a straight line? 5mph trap difference and a half second is not about the same.
Theyre both high 12 second cars
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:10 AM   #313
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Theyre both high 12 second cars
They both have run high 12s stock, yes, but the LS2 GTO is definitely not an every day high 12 second car. Fastest recorded stock time I know of is a 12.6@109 for the GTO and a 12.2@113 for the GT500. Both bone stock, down to the tire.
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They both have run high 12s stock, yes, but the LS2 GTO is definitely not an every day high 12 second car. Fastest recorded stock time I know of is a 12.6@109 for the GTO and a 12.2@113 for the GT500. Both bone stock, down to the tire.
both stock doesn't the gt500 have a S/C that kinda takes away from stock lol but i guess stock from dealer
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off some ones topic but i know there is some dodge owners on this thread… just asking a question why is the new srt8 charger 6.4 so slow…

i drove one and it felt slow i thought maybe it was just cause it was so quiet

but then my cousin raced one and beat it by car lenghts and i beat my cousins gto in my camaro by car lengths….

just wanna know... i thought they were 12.8 second cars
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both stock doesn't the gt500 have a S/C that kinda takes away from stock lol but i guess stock from dealer
It's supercharged from the factory, and it's not a dealer installed option, hence why it's called stock.
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They both have run high 12s stock, yes, but the LS2 GTO is definitely not an every day high 12 second car. Fastest recorded stock time I know of is a 12.6@109 for the GTO and a 12.2@113 for the GT500. Both bone stock, down to the tire.
From 20-90 my friends ls2 auto gto with catback is dead even with my stock g35.

I know it's taking away from previous statement, just based on experience LOL.

Theyre pretty slow..... He's not even within a bus of my Camaro ls1(intake/gears/tune/cutout runs mid 12's on the all seasons @ 110ish.... hoping to do 11.9 on stock y pipe/manifolds/catback with the addition of a stall and slicks/skinnies; hold the record for a stock g35 so may break a few records, probably been done before).
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He's not even within a bus of my Camaro ls1(intake/gears/tune/cutout runs mid 12's on the all seasons @ 110ish.... hoping to do 11.9 on stock y pipe/manifolds/catback with the addition of a stall and slicks/skinnies;.
I think with those mods, with a lot of VHT, and some weight reduction, you might be able to get that time. Might also have to do some suspension mods.
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From 20-90 my friends ls2 auto gto with catback is dead even with my stock g35.

I know it's taking away from previous statement, just based on experience LOL.

Theyre pretty slow..... He's not even within a bus of my Camaro ls1(intake/gears/tune/cutout runs mid 12's on the all seasons @ 110ish.... hoping to do 11.9 on stock y pipe/manifolds/catback with the addition of a stall and slicks/skinnies; hold the record for a stock g35 so may break a few records, probably been done before).
Then your friend needs to learn to drive
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both stock doesn't the gt500 have a S/C that kinda takes away from stock lol but i guess stock from dealer
ZR1s, ZL1s, Cobalt SS' of both varieties, some BMWs, a few Audis, and the GTR also take away from stock kinda lol sort of haha not stock funny lol haha, but yea for realz lol I guess stock from dealer lol
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Soo I read the first few pages, then a few here and there and the only thing I care about is this....did the OP ever race the guy? Haha
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Then your friend needs to learn to drive

It's an automatic, and my Camaro was the same speed as my g35 before I did anything to it when it had 2.73's.

So to be honest, makes sense to me.
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off some ones topic but i know there is some dodge owners on this thread… just asking a question why is the new srt8 charger 6.4 so slow…

i drove one and it felt slow i thought maybe it was just cause it was so quiet

but then my cousin raced one and beat it by car lenghts and i beat my cousins gto in my camaro by car lengths….

just wanna know... i thought they were 12.8 second cars
Probably feeling the weight and size, that can hid how quick a car is really going. Don't kid yourself, they ARE mid 12 second cars STOCK.
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both stock doesn't the gt500 have a S/C that kinda takes away from stock lol but i guess stock from dealer
Stock means as it comes from the factory. Just because a car has a FACTORY supercharger does not mean it isn't stock, it just means it is more blessed from the factory.......
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Probably feeling the weight and size, that can hid how quick a car is really going. Don't kid yourself, they ARE mid 12 second cars STOCK.
i know there heavy but from factory 12s should feel better and run better... they are but i thought it would feel fast it really dies out after 1st gear and then the one my cousin raced was slow too.. i like them but i thought they feel a little faster imo not worth 50k they should feel way faster for 50k
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