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Old 11-06-2013, 06:28 AM   #169
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The Borla headers are about $900 but you have to keep in mind that they only include the headers. Most of the other brands I mentioned are about the same price for headers only. If you add high flow cats then they are $400-500 more.

Borla headers are 1 3/4 inch headers where most others are 1 7/8. If you look at the opening post of this thread you can see what kind of difference that makes. If you want something in the $900 range that will make more power than Borla, check out Stainless Power. They are 1 7/8 header with high flow cats for under $900 plus we have them on sale right now.
I find it funny that before I read this post, I was going to ask you about Stainless Power. I'll be ordering some within the next month, Sorry for all these questions, but I've never had someone answer me on these things lol. What is the difference between them with cats and with off road pipes?

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Old 11-06-2013, 09:26 AM   #170
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SLP headers do not meet the standards outlined in my post.
What is different about them? I have a customer looking for long tubes and a cutout so I want to steer them in the right direction. Thanks for any info you can provide!
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:54 AM   #171
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I find it funny that before I read this post, I was going to ask you about Stainless Power. I'll be ordering some within the next month, Sorry for all these questions, but I've never had someone answer me on these things lol. What is the difference between them with cats and with off road pipes?
No worries, that is what I am here for. Never hesitate to hit me up with questions. High flow cats are exactly what the name suggests. They replace your stock cats and flow better. Off road pipes are also sometimes referred to as cat deletes. They completely eliminate the cats.

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What is different about them? I have a customer looking for long tubes and a cutout so I want to steer them in the right direction. Thanks for any info you can provide!
SLP headers are 409 SS but their pricing is in line with what you would expect to pay for a set of 304 SS headers. They are also only available in 1 3/4 primaries so you will be leaving some power on the table versus what you would see with 1 7/8 or 2 inch header.
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:51 AM   #172
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Chase you have any videos of cammed, LT cars with different exhausts? I'm thinking I may need something instead of my Magnaflow muffler delete.
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:49 PM   #173
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Chase you have any videos of cammed, LT cars with different exhausts? I'm thinking I may need something instead of my Magnaflow muffler delete.
Afraid not. A Retro Chambered cat back would sound like a beast though.
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Old 11-11-2013, 04:33 PM   #174
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No worries, that is what I am here for. Never hesitate to hit me up with questions. High flow cats are exactly what the name suggests. They replace your stock cats and flow better. Off road pipes are also sometimes referred to as cat deletes. They completely eliminate the cats.
So I'm sure there is a difference in sound between the two, what about power? And also are off-road pipes and just the headers themselves the same thing?
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Old 11-24-2013, 04:32 PM   #175
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So I'm sure there is a difference in sound between the two, what about power? And also are off-road pipes and just the headers themselves the same thing?
High flow cats sound a little deeper and off road pipes are a little raspier. In terms of power they are practically identical. Modern high flow cats flow 99% as well as straight pipe. They bolt on after the headers and connect to your cat back.

This is just the headers.



These are off road pipe/cats deletes.



And these are high flow cats.

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Old 11-25-2013, 06:03 PM   #176
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Will the American racing headers long tube headers 1 7/8ths with cats and x pipe bolt on to the nnp exhaust without modification s ?
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:07 PM   #177
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Will the American racing headers long tube headers 1 7/8ths with cats and x pipe bolt on to the nnp exhaust without modification s ?
No. You need the "short system", part number ARHCA78SHWC. Might find a good deal on them later this week during our Black Friday sale.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:39 PM   #178
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:10 PM   #179
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Hey Pfadt, Can you help out a fellow SS owner with a wife and child who's poor? LOL
We can definitely help you out Clif. We are having our annual Black Friday SALE this weekend - Thursday to Sunday. You can order through one of our awesome dealers like Chase at Apex and get 15% off our famous Tri-Y headers. Here's a sound clip of a badass ZL1 with Pfadt Tri-Y's!



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Old 11-26-2013, 06:45 PM   #180
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...order through one of our awesome dealers like Chase at Apex and get 15% off our famous Tri-Y headers.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Chase what are your thoughts on Dynatech headers?
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:17 AM   #182
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Chase what are your thoughts on Dynatech headers?
They are good headers but for the money you can get better headers. Dynatech headers do not have merge spikes and fitment issues are not uncommon.
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