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Old 11-14-2013, 01:19 PM   #925
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The adaptolator would just be to put an LFX manifold on your LLT. The tuning issues will still be there
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:37 PM   #926
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:36 PM   #927
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Nice, I just hit 1k on my 2013 2LT RS Crystal Red. Can't wait to see what you can do with the FLX. Looked you up to see about the SC and mods, just have three years before warranty is out... oh hummm...
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:50 PM   #928
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The adaptolator would just be to put an LFX manifold on your LLT. The tuning issues will still be there
anyway to replace the ecu? Might have to be my thesis in grad school haha
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:56 PM   #929
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anyway to replace the ecu? Might have to be my thesis in grad school haha
Don't think its that easy...if a simple ECU change could cure all of our woes it would have been done by now.
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:17 PM   #930
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Don't give up on the LLT. I know that sounds hypocritical coming from me, but think about this. We can tune the LFX, but what did we end up doing? When we ran out of fuel we added the supplemental fuel system. The tune is the same when we use the supplemental fuel as well as when we run just on the HPFP at lower boost. So, if you can get a good tune using the HPFP, then you can use a setup like mine to get more boost.

Here's how today went. We started out at 50% duty cycle on the turbos and just the HPFP. We kept upping the boost until we ran out of fuel that way, then we turned on the supplemental fuel and added boost until we got the AFR back to a good level. When we first turned it on at 60% duty cycle the AFR was 10.0. At 70% duty cycle it was 11.5 (still a little rich, but making good power). We made NO changes to the tune at all, just upped the boost. I don't see why you can't do that with the LLT, too.
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:58 AM   #931
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I would just like to say congrats on your car..I hope it brings you the enjoyment you are looking for.... one thing is for sure you are going to catch a stock or even worse(for the owner) mild modded ZL1 off guard sooner or later on the way to work, hate to be that blushing owner great job
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:55 AM   #932
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If you guys read back Derrik posted as to why we shouldny give up on the LLT. He said how in the end they ended up having to do with the fuel pump which we knew but says it should be doable on our engine
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Sorry trying to remember and type fast. I'm at work. If it's not reposted I'll go back and quote it when I get a chance
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:56 AM   #933
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Don't give up on the LLT. I know that sounds hypocritical coming from me, but think about this. We can tune the LFX, but what did we end up doing? When we ran out of fuel we added the supplemental fuel system. The tune is the same when we use the supplemental fuel as well as when we run just on the HPFP at lower boost. So, if you can get a good tune using the HPFP, then you can use a setup like mine to get more boost.

Here's how today went. We started out at 50% duty cycle on the turbos and just the HPFP. We kept upping the boost until we ran out of fuel that way, then we turned on the supplemental fuel and added boost until we got the AFR back to a good level. When we first turned it on at 60% duty cycle the AFR was 10.0. At 70% duty cycle it was 11.5 (still a little rich, but making good power). We made NO changes to the tune at all, just upped the boost. I don't see why you can't do that with the LLT, too.

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Old 11-15-2013, 12:54 PM   #934
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:05 PM   #935
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We still have the very limited tuning options, but if someone out there was actually knowledgable or skilled enough with tuning the Bosch ECU I don't see why this same exact thing couldn't be done on the LLT either....so I agree with Gretchen.

I'd love to see IPF, or maybe LMR with their new in house tuning attempt a nice turbo build on an LLT, but I just don't see it happening any more especially since it would all be one big gamble. Instead, going with the LFX and its Delphi ECM has already proven to work and paths are being forged ahead.

Not downing on the LLT, but unless your already an LLT owner with a sizeable amount of cash strapped into your ride, I don't see any reason to attempt it on the LLT and I hate saying that. I know IPF has expressed interest in doing tuning on something more special and unique than just their regular SC kit but it just hasn't happened sadly.
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:10 PM   #936
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As of this morning all the parts are in except the converter, which should be here today or Monday. So plan is to start work Monday and finish up Tuesday morning.
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Old 11-16-2013, 02:29 PM   #937
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Haha, the Gretchen thing threw me, I thought you were a girl for the longest time. I am now educated.
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Old 11-16-2013, 02:52 PM   #938
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That being said I'll just invest on an ls swap,
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