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Old 11-07-2013, 06:40 PM   #26
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Just raced one not that long ago and made a thread.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=322967

Not sure if 2005 is a lot different but the guy I raced was claiming low 12's and 330awhp.

Wasnt impressed.
yeah stage 2 isnt that crazy but once you do fuel pump and injectors and an E85 tune they will make around 400whp so im thinking i should take him but once he does like another 800 in mods im screwed lol until i do my tranny mods and a cam
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:43 AM   #27
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GfDZ_cIHSJo

So earlier this year I raced my brother in law's STI with my SS, watch the video. We raced 4 to 5 times and he never came close. Here's the deal, the STI with those mods is a low 13 second car. My SS was setup similar to yours and was running street tires. His best run is 13.4, I've seen a few in the high 12.90's however they have extensive mods. As far as getting smoked out of the hole, it's all about driver....
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there are autos that go low 12s with just bolt ons and drag radials ive seen one do a 12.3 with just that.
for sure

i went 12.3 the other night with just bolt ons and 20" drag radials...no stall.
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:06 AM   #29
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So earlier this year I raced my brother in law's STI with my SS, watch the video. We raced 4 to 5 times and he never came close. Here's the deal, the STI with those mods is a low 13 second car. My SS was setup similar to yours and was running street tires. His best run is 13.4, I've seen a few in the high 12.90's however they have extensive mods. As far as getting smoked out of the hole, it's all about driver....
nice, walked him!
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i went 12.3 the other night with just bolt ons and 20" drag radials...no stall.
thats sick nice times
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Old 11-08-2013, 05:58 PM   #31
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The older sedan models are the fastest ones. Also, "stage 2" is very broad. Depending on the supporting modifications a stage 2 car will make anywhere from 270awhp to 350awhp.
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:15 AM   #32
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The older sedan models are the fastest ones. Also, "stage 2" is very broad. Depending on the supporting modifications a stage 2 car will make anywhere from 270awhp to 350awhp.
very true but most people agree stage 2 means intake, turbo back exhaust and a dyno tune. stage 3 is usually intake, headers, turbo back exhaust, fuel pump and injectors and a dyno. stage 2 for most sti's will put u around 320ish and stage 3 will put you near 400 especially if your on an E85 tune. E85 is the key after doing the injectors and fuel pump, that is a huge gain for subaru guys (or any forced inductions imports for the most part).
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:31 AM   #33
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My shop considers a "full" stage 2 for my evo as follows:
intake
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With those mods he has, I think you got him, especially if he can't launch well. You still will have to play catchup from a dig but you should have him after 60.
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STI, every time I see one run there lucky to get into the 12s but everyone talks how fast they are. The ones I have raced are strong on the low end, but really fall short on any kind of speed and end up being cars behind. Although I did see one running 12.30s over the summer, he must have been very modded.
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My shop considers a "full" stage 2 for my evo as follows:
intake
Upper and lower intercooler piping
electronic boost controller
bigger front mount
recirculating downpipe
hi-flow cat or test pipe
catback
dyno tune

nets around 375 awhp (plus or minus a few).

With those mods he has, I think you got him, especially if he can't launch well. You still will have to play catchup from a dig but you should have him after 60.
That's bs. My friend's 2011 wrx, with the bigger oem turbo than older sti's, did 287 awhp on 91 octane.... 301 awhp on 93 octane with those very mods. He switched to e85 and did 341 awhp.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:53 PM   #36
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My shop considers a "full" stage 2 for my evo as follows:
intake
Upper and lower intercooler piping
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bigger front mount
recirculating downpipe
hi-flow cat or test pipe
catback
dyno tune

nets around 375 awhp (plus or minus a few).

With those mods he has, I think you got him, especially if he can't launch well. You still will have to play catchup from a dig but you should have him after 60.
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That's bs. My friend's 2011 wrx, with the bigger oem turbo than older sti's, did 287 awhp on 91 octane.... 301 awhp on 93 octane with those very mods. He switched to e85 and did 341 awhp.
Apples and oranges.
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Apples and oranges.
The new WRX and STi have the same engine and turbo?

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The new WRX and sti have the same engine and turbo
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STI, every time I see one run there lucky to get into the 12s but everyone talks how fast they are. The ones I have raced are strong on the low end, but really fall short on any kind of speed and end up being cars behind. Although I did see one running 12.30s over the summer, he must have been very modded.
He probably had meth or e85. They don't have forged pistons and the boxer design runs very hot so they have to be tuned conservatively to be safe and these knock resistant fuels help a lot. The e85 cars are way faster than the 91/93 cars in general. Typical stage 2 cars on pump gas make around 300awhp/315awtq give or take 15 or so and with e85 or meth they will generally pick up 30-40awhp and a bit more than that in torque. One of the guys I track with makes over 400awtq with e85 and that thing corner-exits like a damn rocket, but falls off hard after 100mph. They have a very large gearing change from 4th to 5th which really hurts their acceleration.
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Apples and oranges.
Correct. And I am referring to evos and not a wrx/sti. 150whp is easily gained from the mods I have listed.
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Correct. And I am referring to evos and not a wrx/sti. 150whp is easily gained from the mods I have listed.
Actually, I was referring to your Evo being compared to the Subaru and him calling BS based on the false comparison.

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My close friend has a 2013 STI with turbo back, intake and tune and he only takes me off the line. From 2nd gear on he is a half car behind and ever increasing. At high speeds he is in the rear view.
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Wrx and STI are worlds apart if u can drive them at the limit. Neither is a drag racer but could be with proper mods I guess. But not their strong point IMO. A friend with a tune and downpipe was wearing out intake header bolt on camaro ss's at the track last weekend. 2-3 tenths faster in the wrx than the ss's. Granted...I think there was some driving issues on those camaros as well. But still...he was running 10.1-2 in 1kft. Strong for a wrx.
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in all actuality the Subaru's aren't designed for straight lines they are rally cars. they are meant to be driven through the woods at high speeds lol im pretty sure if we race it will be from a roll and ill smoke him
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in all actuality the Subaru's aren't designed for straight lines they are rally cars. they are meant to be driven through the woods at high speeds lol im pretty sure if we race it will be from a roll and ill smoke him
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yikes! I would wear brown pants before I rode with that dude. STI is still on the bucket list for one day....
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Check out the save they talk about at the end. I would need a new pair of underwear after that.
ok first of all that thing is heavily worked (hes doing all wheel burn outs for christs sake) and some of those twists turns are very similar to a rally race except for the mud and what not. and lets also not forget world rally cars are pretty much stock as far as engine work goes but the suspension is heavily modded. i could post ken block videos of the same crap lol sick video but im sure i could find a camaro or a corvette doing the same/similar thing. there always have to be ONE troll who posts the video of a heavily worked scoobie and says "yep" 99% of the wrx and sti's you will see on the road dont even break 300hp at the crank. this individual is trying to set a record so of course its going to be very impressive but what subarus are world famous for is RALLY racing. this video is very impressive and insane. props to the driver hes a maniac haha
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ok first of all that thing is heavily worked (hes doing all wheel burn outs for christs sake) and some of those twists turns are very similar to a rally race except for the mud and what not. and lets also not forget world rally cars are pretty much stock as far as engine work goes but the suspension is heavily modded. i could post ken block videos of the same crap lol sick video but im sure i could find a camaro or a corvette doing the same/similar thing. there always have to be ONE troll who posts the video of a heavily worked scoobie and says "yep" 99% of the wrx and sti's you will see on the road dont even break 300hp at the crank. this individual is trying to set a record so of course its going to be very impressive but what subarus are world famous for is RALLY racing. this video is very impressive and insane. props to the driver hes a maniac haha
You really need to reevaluate how you interpret the word, "yep." I was agreeing with you. That is rally. It's called tarmac rally and the sti and similar cars do very well in it, hence the production vehicle world record. Look it up. Dunlop Targa is a great example. It is not my fault you think WRC is the only form of rally.

Also, every sti sold in North America breaks 300hp at the crank. The 305bhp referenced at the beginning of the video is the bone stock power. That specific car has suspension, safety equipment, tires, and an exhaust system. It is also pretty easy to do donuts in a stock sti, you don't need a lot of power.
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