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Old 11-19-2013, 07:29 AM   #1
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BMR Springs? 1.4"/1"

Ok I posted this in another thread but have not had anyone look at it in a while. I know BMR has a 1.4/1" kit for our cars but I can't seem to understand why anyone would want to make the "rake" more pronounced by dropping the fronts another 1/2 " rake over what it has now. If anyone could explain the benifits to me would be great. I was also wondering if anyone has done the opposite and dropped the rear 1.4" and the front 1"? Pics? In my car that would leave me 1/2" gap in the front and the rear. This to me seems the way to go but was unsure if it would make the car look like it was in launch mode due to the body lines of the car even though the gaps would be the same.
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Old 11-19-2013, 07:32 AM   #2
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Its all about that muscle car stance man, low in the front, shackled up in the rear.
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:43 AM   #3
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Its all about that muscle car stance man, low in the front, shackled up in the rear.
This. It is just a style thing. Not necessarily for everyone.
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Just for looks, some people prefer to have rake. I like it even all around, personally. Here's mine on the 1" BMRs.

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Ive heard issues about lowering more than an inch. Anyone know what gets stressed or whatever it is lowering more than an inch. Looking at bmr 1.4" all around but dont want future issues. Eventually will be with 22x9 and 22x10 rear rims
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Old 11-19-2013, 01:06 PM   #6
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Ive heard issues about lowering more than an inch. Anyone know what gets stressed or whatever it is lowering more than an inch. Looking at bmr 1.4" all around but dont want future issues. Eventually will be with 22x9 and 22x10 rear rims
If you go too low your factory dampers will not be able to take it. The ride will suck and they will fail. 1 inch is being extremely conservative though. We have plenty of customers running the BMR 1.4 inch springs without any problems. You just don't want to get into some of these 1.8 and 2 inch springs out there.
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I have the 1.4" front/1" rear on my V6 and am very happy with it.
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:19 PM   #8
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Ok I posted this in another thread but have not had anyone look at it in a while. I know BMR has a 1.4/1" kit for our cars but I can't seem to understand why anyone would want to make the "rake" more pronounced by dropping the fronts another 1/2 " rake over what it has now. If anyone could explain the benifits to me would be great. I was also wondering if anyone has done the opposite and dropped the rear 1.4" and the front 1"? Pics? In my car that would leave me 1/2" gap in the front and the rear. This to me seems the way to go but was unsure if it would make the car look like it was in launch mode due to the body lines of the car even though the gaps would be the same.
Thanks, Rob
Measurement-wise I think you would be fine with that combination if that is the direction you want to go. I don't remember anybody that has used this combination of the top of my head but we have a lot of customers that play around with the different springs to get the exact stance they are looking for.

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Just for looks, some people prefer to have rake. I like it even all around, personally. Here's mine on the 1" BMRs.

Your car has an amazing stance with our BMR 1" lowering springs (SP019). Thanks for posting the picture up!

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Ive heard issues about lowering more than an inch. Anyone know what gets stressed or whatever it is lowering more than an inch. Looking at bmr 1.4" all around but dont want future issues. Eventually will be with 22x9 and 22x10 rear rims
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If you go too low your factory dampers will not be able to take it. The ride will suck and they will fail. 1 inch is being extremely conservative though. We have plenty of customers running the BMR 1.4 inch springs without any problems. You just don't want to get into some of these 1.8 and 2 inch springs out there.
Chase is absolutely correct, the lower the ride height is the harder the struts and shocks have to work to control everything. We have a ton of customers out there with our BMR 1.4" lowering springs (SP022) that have had them installed on the car for years without any kind of issues with their factory struts or shocks so if those are the ones you are interested in I wouldn't hesitate to use them at all.

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I have the 1.4" front/1" rear on my V6 and am very happy with it.
Thanks for the good words!
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:14 PM   #9
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Just for looks, some people prefer to have rake. I like it even all around, personally. Here's mine on the 1" BMRs.

Love this stance! I hope I can get mine this way. I have 2 1/4" gap in the rear and a 1 3/4" gap in the front. I cant see getting mine to a "level" stance using 1" springs all the way around. I want to do this soon so maybe i'll try the 1" to start then if not the way I like try the 1.4's in the rear. At least they are easier to change.
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Thanks chase sounds like 1.4 will be ok to use and what ill end up with! Hey kyle thanks for more input, i spoke with you earlier about picking the springs up from you. Thinking ill go with the 1.4 springs and be ok with 22s in the future from what ive seen. Ill call you end of this week or beginning of next to pick them up!
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:54 AM   #11
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Love this stance! I hope I can get mine this way. I have 2 1/4" gap in the rear and a 1 3/4" gap in the front. I cant see getting mine to a "level" stance using 1" springs all the way around. I want to do this soon so maybe i'll try the 1" to start then if not the way I like try the 1.4's in the rear. At least they are easier to change.
You can definitely play it safe and go that route. And even if you end up swapping the rear springs out for the 1.4"s you could either sell them on here or we could work something out if you wanted to return them.

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Thanks chase sounds like 1.4 will be ok to use and what ill end up with! Hey kyle thanks for more input, i spoke with you earlier about picking the springs up from you. Thinking ill go with the 1.4 springs and be ok with 22s in the future from what ive seen. Ill call you end of this week or beginning of next to pick them up!
Not a problem, just call me when you are ready to get the springs and I will make sure we get you taken care of.
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:06 PM   #12
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rjames, I was asking Kyle @ BMR the exact same question. My SS has a 2.0 gap in the front and a 2.5 gap in the back.

I'm still hoping to see a leveled out car too.
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So unless there is something about springs that I don't understand, if I am 2.5 in back and 2.0 in front, 1.4 back and 1.0 front should level my off road vehicle. I'll be in touch Kyle!

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Old 12-12-2013, 06:12 PM   #14
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If you go too low your factory dampers will not be able to take it. The ride will suck and they will fail. 1 inch is being extremely conservative though. We have plenty of customers running the BMR 1.4 inch springs without any problems. You just don't want to get into some of these 1.8 and 2 inch springs out there.
The upper control arm front bushing gets maxed out and will fail also.
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:50 PM   #15
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Nobody has done this?

How long does it typically take to change the springs?
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:13 AM   #16
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I have the split drop. To me it wasn't about wheel gap. The front of my car just look a little higher than back
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1.4 in front or back?

I had lunch with a car guy yesterday, and he said "nice rake you got going there." That noticeable. :(

How long does it take to do springs with impact?
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1.4 in front or back?

I had lunch with a car guy yesterday, and he said "nice rake you got going there." That noticeable. :(

How long does it take to do springs with impact?

2-3 hours to do the springs

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I am looking forward to Koni Yellow Adjustables with lowering springs as an option. Hopefully, BMR will put a package deal together when the Yellows are available.
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What length drop would you use to make your car low, decent ride and level?
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Some confusion here, this thread is about 1.0 front, 1.4 back. Eliminating all rake.
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Some confusion here, this thread is about 1.0 front, 1.4 back. Eliminating all rake.
Sorry. .I was definitely confused...I thought it was about aggressive stance
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:02 PM   #23
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Just for looks, some people prefer to have rake. I like it even all around, personally. Here's mine on the 1" BMRs.

What tire set up are you running?? Just got my camaro and thinking of going this route. It looks awesome!
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PM'd Kyle, the rake is making me lose sleep.

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PM'd Kyle, the rake is making me lose sleep.

Look at the bright side. Slap some mudders on there and you won't have clearance or traction problems.

Personally, I like the inbetween look of the 1.25in Pfadt springs.
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