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Old 11-22-2013, 08:19 PM   #151
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Old 11-22-2013, 11:29 PM   #152
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I'd love to see a this in Blazer form. Fen, any rumors of an SUV based off of this?
TrailBlazer overseas but there's no telling if we'll get it.
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Old 11-22-2013, 11:42 PM   #153
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I see the overseas diesel is available with a manual transmission?? If we got a manual trans with the diesel, I'd be all over it, the looks would grow on me
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:16 AM   #154
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So I may have misinterpreted what you said in the GM thread but, test blocks were being cast for the diesel? Is this going to be a different or completely refreshed version of the international 2.8 duramax? Are we expecting even more power and torque :O this gets more and more exciting...plus the Canyon reveal in January!
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:20 AM   #155
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So I may have misinterpreted what you said in the GM thread but, test blocks were being cast for the diesel? Is this going to be a different or completely refreshed version of the international 2.8 duramax? Are we expecting even more power and torque :O this gets more and more exciting...plus the Canyon reveal in January!
I think in that thread he may have been talking about the new Duramax for the full sized trucks.
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When will we see the 15 Canyon?
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Nope. First test blocks were cast this week, that's the only reason we know.

Canyon, probably at Detroit.
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:27 AM   #156
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I think in that thread he may have been talking about the new Duramax for the full sized trucks.
Thanks for the clarification - these new mid sizers are really causing some tunnel vision for me! I hope everyone that has always said that they wanted a smaller diesel truck will actually step up to the plate. Should be a great seller if the price is right.
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:49 AM   #157
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Yeah, I was talking about the Heavy Duty Duramax.
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:21 PM   #158
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Does anyone know where I can find more pictures of the black Colorado?
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:53 PM   #159
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ugh I hope gm doesn't do something stupid and call the little diesel the "ecomax" or something hideous like that.
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Old 11-23-2013, 07:14 PM   #160
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ugh I hope gm doesn't do something stupid and call the little diesel the "ecomax" or something hideous like that.
I think they are already calling it a Duramax...

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Old 11-23-2013, 07:23 PM   #161
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Does anyone know where I can find more pictures of the black Colorado?
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Old 11-23-2013, 07:49 PM   #162
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I'd love to see a this in Blazer form. Fen, any rumors of an SUV based off of this?
Just search on Trailblazer. It exists but I doubt you will ever see it here.
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Old 11-24-2013, 12:35 AM   #163
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I'm not gonna lie, I like the front end and the BFG AT's. I'd have to see the truck in real life to see how the proportions make the truck look overall. I'm not a big fan fan of large squared wheel wells though. Its nice to see a new American compact truck and think it would be a home run with any kind of turbo diesel power plant.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:37 AM   #164
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I was just looking at the Equinox and to get the 3.6L over the base 2.4L, it's a $1,500 option if that is any indication to what it is going to cost to get the V6 or the new Duramax in the Colorado.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:41 AM   #165
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I was just looking at the Equinox and to get the 3.6L over the base 2.4L, it's a $1,500 option if that is any indication to what it is going to cost to get the V6 or the new Duramax in the Colorado.
Yes also compare the markup on the Impala.
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Old 11-24-2013, 04:22 PM   #166
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I found a curb weight on the international model that translated to about 4451 lbs (2.8 auto), that seems heavy doesn't it?
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:20 PM   #168
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I found a curb weight on the international model that translated to about 4451 lbs (2.8 auto), that seems heavy doesn't it?
I wouldn't be surprised if the international version is beefed up a bit, since midsize pickups are generally the largest pickup you can buy in most parts of the world.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:30 PM   #169
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I read on another site from someone who talked with reps at an auto show. He was told the new models are actually a few hundred lbs heavier than the past trucks. That's a bit disappointing.

That said, crew cab Colorado to crew cab Silverado, the midsize is supposed to be some 900 lbs lighter.

What does a Silverado Crew cab weigh anyways? I know it depends on configuration.
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It's a huge improvement to the current model imo.
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Old 11-24-2013, 09:25 PM   #171
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I read on another site from someone who talked with reps at an auto show. He was told the new models are actually a few hundred lbs heavier than the past trucks. That's a bit disappointing.

That said, crew cab Colorado to crew cab Silverado, the midsize is supposed to be some 900 lbs lighter.

What does a Silverado Crew cab weigh anyways? I know it depends on configuration.
Then again the GMT-355s weren't exactly the most sophisticated things ever.

The new trucks are heavier but you get a much better truck.
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Old 11-24-2013, 09:28 PM   #172
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From the Chevy site
Silverado Crew short box 5218 lbs
Silverado Crew standard box 5292 lbs

so 4451 lbs +/- could be about right for the Colorado
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Old 11-24-2013, 09:44 PM   #173
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Anyone want to speculate on pricing. I am betting a loaded crew cab z71 will push to $40grand.
rumor mill has it that the base model version or stripped down version is to start around $18,500
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Yes also compare the markup on the Impala.
Looks like to get the 3.6 in the Impala you have to go from a 1LT to 2LT and that is a $975 difference. I read somewhere that it was estimated that the new diesel in the 1/2 Ram is gonna be $4000 over their base V6. That would have to make the diesel in the Colorado $2000-$3000 over base right?
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Oh also the fuel economy for the international 2.8L auto was 9.2L/100km. I converted and it came out to 25.6 MPG. Hopefully ours will be better. I'm getting more and more excited for this!!
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