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Old 11-26-2013, 04:14 PM   #1
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New Camaro Owner Here / Suspension Question

I purchased my first Camaro yesterday. It is a 2012 SS Anniversary Edition with the 6M. The salesman said that the exhaust was aftermarket so I asked him what exhaust did it have. He said that it was still GM exhaust but they called it aftermarket. :/ Anyway, we had taken a 2012 SS auto home for a weekend prior and this one that we bought is louder. Also he mentioned that it had a Hurst shifter like it was an add on. Is it or do all of the manuals come with it?

The burning question is...While the automatic rode fairly well (for being a sports car), this Anniversary Edition rides like a freakin' lumber wagon. Is it plausible that if the previous owner upgraded the exhaust that he might have upgraded the suspension as well? Is there a way that I can tell?

If anyone has any insight into this exhaust, do you know what the HP is with the upgraded exhaust?
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:28 PM   #2
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Too many aftermarket exhaust out there for a camaro to tell you without pictures. Maybe if you post a picture of your exhaust we could tell you. Pictures always helps.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:31 PM   #3
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:03 PM   #4
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The Hurst shifter knob is an optional order. I actually just installed mine. I like it, but it's just an accessory. The oem knob is the same feeling and look. The Hurst just has (usually) red stitching and the H logo.
The oem is plain.

Hurst knob costs anywhere from $50-$85
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:43 PM   #5
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The Hurst shifter knob is an optional order. I actually just installed mine. I like it, but it's just an accessory. The oem knob is the same feeling and look. The Hurst just has (usually) red stitching and the H logo.
The oem is plain.

Hurst knob costs anywhere from $50-$85
The Factory Hurst option is a complete shifter, not just the knob. And it's an option, not all M6 cars have it. And my 2012 rides great, '12s got a revised suspension for better handling. So if it rides rough, it could have some work done to it.

To the OP, congrats on the new car. Anniversary cars are sweet.
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:05 PM   #6
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Too many aftermarket exhaust out there for a camaro to tell you without pictures. Maybe if you post a picture of your exhaust we could tell you. Pictures always helps.
^This

Give us some photos of the mufflers and suspension so we can help you out.

Also congrats on the new ride!
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:57 PM   #7
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Welcome...great choice....and if it's loud....be proud!!!
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:05 PM   #8
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The salesman said that the exhaust was aftermarket so I asked him what exhaust did it have. He said that it was still GM exhaust but they called it aftermarket.
He probably meant that has the GM Performance Parts axle-back.

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Anyway, we had taken a 2012 SS auto home for a weekend prior and this one that we bought is louder.
The manuals have a louder exhaust than the automatic, to start with. But if it has aftermarket mufflers, GM or otherwise, it will be even louder

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Also he mentioned that it had a Hurst shifter like it was an add on. Is it or do all of the manuals come with it?
There's two Hurst shifters, but neither of them are standard. There's an optional factory installed version and there's an aftermarket version.

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The burning question is...While the automatic rode fairly well (for being a sports car), this Anniversary Edition rides like a freakin' lumber wagon.
The '12s do have an upgraded suspension, but I don't think it's noticeably stiffer.

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Is there a way that I can tell?
Have a look under it. Most of the aftermarket stuff is pretty easy to recognize and is often painted bright colors.

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If anyone has any insight into this exhaust, do you know what the HP is with the upgraded exhaust?
Any horsepower gains are going to be negligible. Most of the experts will tell you that almost all of the horsepower gains are from the cats forward and any changes from cats back is just for sound.
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:48 AM   #9
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Thanks everyone. I will try to get pics over the holidays.

Buying this car is a change of pace for me (No pun intended...well, maybe a little). I am 35 years old. I have owned 4 Cadillacs, currently owning a 2008 DTS of which the wife drives now(She's happy). It was time to to get another car and get rid of our Impala but nothing really grabbed me out on the car market. I went to the dealership to look at another Cadillac as well as a Challenger. They had this black 2012 SS2 Camaro on the showroom floor and it grabbed my attention. WE took it home for the weekend but brought it back on Monday. I decided that I wanted a manual as well as had noticed many issues with the car (Onstar malfunction, paint chips/scratches, etc). We ordered this anniversary edition from Colorado and love it. But having driven two 2012 Camaros I can certainly say that this one rides MUCH stiffer.

As for the shifter, I assume that it came from the factory like this. It does have the Hurst logo on the left and right side of the knob. It does have the red white and blue stitching as the seats do (Anniversary edition thing I think).

I do miss some of the features of my Caddys. Most notably would be the Rainsense wipers, auto bright headlight control, and CORNERING LIGHTS!!! If I can figure out a way to retrofit these features, I will.

Speaking of modifications...I am already looking at mods that I can perform. Currently on my list is LED sequential tail lights, replacing the DRL with fog lights(glass lens to run a brighter bulb), and replacing the halos with some red/white color change ones for headlamps and fogs.
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