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Old 07-25-2009, 11:03 AM   #18
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Well it's good info, the vette info, and I would eat the crow plate. But still want to see proof that this system is getting contaminated. What does the service schedule say for refreshing the brake fluid?
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:38 PM   #19
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How much fluid does the clutch require? Is that reservoir big enough?
I have gone to L.V. to go get parts for my next thing to do on the car, I did not look at how much fluid does the clutch requires, This is from a GTO that had a LS2 in it so that i think is good for the LS3. ( P.S. it looks like this is fine drove the car 270 mi in 105 temp and no problems )

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Well it's good info, the vette info, and I would eat the crow plate. But still want to see proof that this system is getting contaminated. What does the service schedule say for refreshing the brake fluid?
Do you have your car at this time? and do you daily drive it, If you do you will see the color go from gold to brown in no time.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:41 PM   #20
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Well I wound not cause I am Mr Automatic anyways.

And won't have one for a couple years.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:57 PM   #21
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Yes I do, clutch fluid always gets dirtier faster.

Change it when it gets dirty.

Google brake fluid though and educate yourself.

DOT 3 and DOT 4 are compatible and are both hydroscopic, which means it is able to absorb moisture. Some of the discoloration is water in the fluid which it is designed to change to a darker color the more moisture it absorbs.

DOT 3, and DOT 4 Brake fluid will just turn dark from sitting around with the cap off, thats why the instructions always tell you to add only fluid from a sealed container, preferrably new stuff. So don't go to the parts store and buy the big bottle to just top off your system.

It absorbs moisture from the air, and condensation from heat.

I still think they should have seperate reservoirs as a failure on one system could cause both brakes and clutch to fail.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:10 PM   #22
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The fluid would need a more scientific analysis. As well as long term testing of the system as a total. Right now saying it's gonna fail early is just an assumption based on what appears to be dirty fluid. When it could be a non issue if the maint schedule is followed. That's why I asked what the interval is?

I trust the engineers that it's good for the job. When it actually fails or a scientific fluid test can show some problem then there is a basis for a mechanical issue outside normal maint.
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:15 PM   #23
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They should have separated them and had different reservoirs. My guess is it is cost cutting.

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Old 07-25-2009, 07:40 PM   #24
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Less parts means less to break. Now saying that I dont have mine yet. When I do maybe my opinion will change but I like to think it was thought out buy guys smarter than me.
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Old 07-25-2009, 08:15 PM   #25
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How much fluid does the clutch require? Is that reservoir big enough?
The new one takes 1 1/2 oz

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Less parts means less to break. Now saying that I dont have mine yet. When I do maybe my opinion will change but I like to think it was thought out buy guys smarter than me.
that is right, But the only thing that can break is a plastic reservoir, that is all i did.
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:07 AM   #26
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2SSRS, Is this Holden part available in the US from Chevrolet dealers ?
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#1 new reservoir from a GTO a Holden part # 92065790 list $19.33 but can get for $15.00
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Old 07-26-2009, 12:25 PM   #27
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Old 07-28-2009, 06:14 PM   #28
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I would like to see the aftermarket offer this option.
Clutch dust can't be a good thing for the ABS to deal with IMO
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Anybody think a slightly larger resevoir will help with cooling. Finding a way to keep the brake fluid more cool will be next!

The reason I have seen to do this is to try and keep some heat out of the system...
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:12 AM   #30
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Anybody think a slightly larger resevoir will help with cooling. Finding a way to keep the brake fluid more cool will be next!

The reason I have seen to do this is to try and keep some heat out of the system...
Good point, I know that the color if the brake fluid is not getting dark like when it was combined.
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Anybody think a slightly larger resevoir will help with cooling. Finding a way to keep the brake fluid more cool will be next!

The reason I have seen to do this is to try and keep some heat out of the system...
I'll be changing to steel-braided brake lines; those help a little in dissipating heat plus give a more solid feel to the brakes. If you're doing that much braking (i.e. HPDE or autocrossing) you might want to look into brake ducts for cooling and/or 2-piece brake rotors. I'm trying to find rotors but so far nobody is saying they have one yet for this car. Everything is "in development" lol.
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I'll be changing to steel-braided brake lines; those help a little in dissipating heat plus give a more solid feel to the brakes. If you're doing that much braking (i.e. HPDE or autocrossing) you might want to look into brake ducts for cooling and/or 2-piece brake rotors. I'm trying to find rotors but so far nobody is saying they have one yet for this car. Everything is "in development" lol.



Brembo already has a Big Brake Kit for the camaro.

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So my car has around 7000 miles on it. I just checked the resevoir today and the fluid is a "Killians Red" color. It was a clear golden color not to long ago.

My cap also leaks.

I'm going to take it into the dealership and have them take a look... I may try this separate reservoir fix though.
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