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Old 01-06-2014, 12:22 AM   #676
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Old 01-06-2014, 07:32 AM   #677
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Call Kevin, he should know. Tranny lines are for the cooler to plug in OEM style so if you are doing your own cooler/etc then you may not need them.

I don't see why it wouldn't work with a 4l80 but Kevin should know. It would work with certain th400/350/etc the issue Matt had was the transbrake solenoid was hitting the wastegate. That could be modded fairly easy to fit or if you don't have a transbrake it may not be an issue at all.
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Old 01-06-2014, 08:28 AM   #678
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I have been told by Kevin last week there is not a solution yet, but he has ideas in the works. My assumption is that he needs a 4L80 car there so he can put something together.

As per my TH400, with the deep pan and the transbrake the cast wastegate extensions were the issue, so that could have been worked around with putting the gates off of the manifolds or further down the line.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:23 PM   #679
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Hey Matt what's the best price for the ago tt kit? Also what else would I need to make it work good? Clutch, fuel pump, bigger injectors etc? I would like to be 600 whp to 650whp
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:35 PM   #680
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Hey Matt what's the best price for the ago tt kit? Also what else would I need to make it work good? Clutch, fuel pump, bigger injectors etc? I would like to be 600 whp to 650whp
Here is what is posted on the AGP site.

http://www.agpturbo.com/turbo-upgrade/
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Old 01-08-2014, 07:02 AM   #681
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Hey Matt what's the best price for the ago tt kit? Also what else would I need to make it work good? Clutch, fuel pump, bigger injectors etc? I would like to be 600 whp to 650whp
The "full" kit comes with injectors and a fuel pump or BAP. So basically a clutch but plenty of people are running 600-650rwhp on stock clutch. I would add a boost controller. Stock kit on a manual with boost controller assuming you have decent gas (not cali/az 91 octane) should be able to do 650-700rwhp. Autos have been in the 630-680range. Methonal will fix any octane issues.
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:06 AM   #682
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Here is what is posted on the AGP site.

http://www.agpturbo.com/turbo-upgrade/
yes,yes and yes you will need all3 and Matt can hook you up..
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:37 AM   #683
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Thank you very much guys. How long before my stock clutch goes out. Which clutch would y'all recommend?
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:38 AM   #684
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Yea we have 93 octane here in tx
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:48 AM   #685
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Thank you very much guys. How long before my stock clutch goes out. Which clutch would y'all recommend?
If you put 600-650 to the ground it may go out on the dyno,sure wont last long...Do a search,mantic and Street Slayer seem to have very favorable results from end users sounds like a sick build keep us posted!
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:33 AM   #686
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Mine went out as soon as I put drag radials on at the track.. lol
I used ZR1 clutch for a long time loved it but still had clutch petal sticking issues. Now I have Monster twin. Working great.. no complaints. But less clutch play and a Lil chatter at slipping. ZR1 didn't have

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Old 01-08-2014, 10:45 AM   #687
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Mantic or RXT are great clutches.

If I had a 5th gen, I would buy a white 1le, add AGP kit, fore or squash dual pump, meth kit, and a clutch and set it to ~720-750rwhp and beat the hell out of it. Put the rest towards axles, suspension, tires.
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Old 01-08-2014, 11:07 AM   #688
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Well I'm just calculating my money and cost for set up. I was planning on getting the turbos around cam5fest but everything is gonna depend how I get hit with taxes this year. I Also need to sweet talk my wife into this kit. We'll see how that turns out.
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Old 01-08-2014, 04:13 PM   #689
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I'm about halfway through reading this whole thread and the more I read the more I want this kit in my car. Really dont want to put a hole in my block though so gotta figure out if I want to save money a while longer to get some forged internals at the same time.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:33 PM   #690
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I'm about halfway through reading this whole thread and the more I read the more I want this kit in my car. Really dont want to put a hole in my block though so gotta figure out if I want to save money a while longer to get some forged internals at the same time.
No need to do forged internals yet. Keep the boost low and keep the AFR in check.
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:16 PM   #691
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No need to do forged internals yet. Keep the boost low and keep the AFR in check.
Ok. Loaded question. Keep boost low to what (at Laramie elevation of 7,100 ft)?
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:56 PM   #692
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Different people will have different opinions on that. I would say 12-13psi if you have the octane. Stock motors are good for ~750-800rwhp with a good tune/octane on a blower setup. Without a blower taking 50+hp to spin you can go up a bit higher with turbos.

With meth I would have no issue dialing in a car around 750rwhp and expecting it to live a long happy life, or if a custom wants to run high octane/torco. They can always turn it down for street driving when they don't have higher octane. If they wanted to push it then whatever boost to get to ~800rwhp and let it eat.

Just make sure you have the fuel system to support it.
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:58 PM   #693
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And nevermind boost etc....do not get greedy with timing ( although dont go daft and run none lol )
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Old 01-13-2014, 04:33 PM   #694
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AGP kits now offered with precision DBB turbos on the website. You can always call Ben/Kevin if something isn't listed like garrett cartridges or other options if you don't like one of the 6 listed on the site.

Borg Warner 56/61 S200sx turbos
Borg Warner 56/65 S256 turbos
Borg Warner 61/65 S261 turbos
Precision Turbo 5862 Ball Bearing turbos
Precision Turbo 6266 Ball Bearing turbos
Precision Turbo 6766 Ball Bearing turbos
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AGP kits now offered with precision DBB turbos on the website. You can always call Ben/Kevin if something isn't listed like garrett cartridges or other options if you don't like one of the 6 listed on the site.

Borg Warner 56/61 S200sx turbos
Borg Warner 56/65 S256 turbos
Borg Warner 61/65 S261 turbos
Precision Turbo 5862 Ball Bearing turbos
Precision Turbo 6266 Ball Bearing turbos
Precision Turbo 6766 Ball Bearing turbos
Expected power ranges for each ? Spool times ?
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Expected power ranges for each ? Spool times ?
I would have to go bug them but I think for a manual car (auto 40-50hp less)

950
1050
1300
1150
1300
1600

Those are rough estimates. Hell each 6667 is rated at 925hp by precision.
Spool time is way too setup dependent. Compression, cam, tuning, displacement, AR housings. A 440ci RHS 10.5 motor would spool any of them pretty damn quick, a 9:1 stock displacement would be a different story.
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Old 01-13-2014, 04:58 PM   #697
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Hell each 6667 is rated at 925hp by precision.

Yes, but at much higher pressure ratios than would be seen in most large V8 applications. That rating simply cannot safely be applied in the same way
On our V8's, we'd be pushing the far right side of the map most of the time, spinning the turbos much harder than a smaller capacity motor, which would be in a far more efficient part of the map
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:35 PM   #698
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This kit is just simply amazing! Took me a day and a half while I wasn't busy at work to read this whole thread! I had one question on the kit, where is the feed oil from the turbos coming from seeing how the kit requires to drilling or cutting?
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:57 PM   #699
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This kit is just simply amazing! Took me a day and a half while I wasn't busy at work to read this whole thread! I had one question on the kit, where is the feed oil from the turbos coming from seeing how the kit requires to drilling or cutting?
From the oil pressure switch behind the intake.
The adapter is included in the kit.
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:06 PM   #700
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Sneak peak. I was there after a test drive of the new shop toy that arrived so took a picture.

Is this the "cold air intake" option on agp's website for the turbo kit? And any pictures of the finished product? What is all required to cut or trim?
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