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View Poll Results: The wife says get a Vette, what should I do?
Keep the 1LE, it is awesome and makes the most sense. 45 18.00%
Live the dream, get the Stingray before time runs out. 163 65.20%
Sell the the house and all the cars and live in a trailer in Key West. 42 16.80%
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:05 PM   #103
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Get the house it (usually) gains value while the car losses value. House on water is also in my bucket list. i want pond front love bass fishing.

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Camaro 1LE + Corvette C7 - Camaro 1LE = Corvette C7

Camaro 1LE + House = Camaro 1LE and House

Corvette C7 < Camaro 1LE and House
Your equations nailed it!!!! I am working on the house idea, here again it's not really the money, but rather a complex situation involving the family, the wife, the condition of the house, and global warming. But either way I will be driving a very fun car. I am a lucky man.
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:47 PM   #104
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Two more votes for the century mark for those that want you to live the dream of the C7
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:06 PM   #105
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Update, if anyone still cares.

The house deal is very iffy and may or may not work out no matter what I end up doing with cars. The big decision I would have to make if I can get past the iffy stuff, is do I want to spend every spare hour for the next two years or more fixing it up. In years past you could just finance the whole thing and you could not go wrong. But those days are over for perhaps a very long time. Thank you Wall Street. So the house part of the equation is out of scope.

Back to the car quandary. I have the financial logistics worked out so the Z51 would be about the same payment as the 1LE. But of course this would mean dumping a good chunk of cash into the deal. I wish I could sell some of the GM stock I owned before the crash, but that's another story. And so I wonder, what do I really want from getting a Stingray? Well owning (arguably) the best sports car on the planet is one thing and I am sure it would be great fun to drive. But the cost of long term ownership (and modding) will be much higher with the Corvette. Will the extra fun be worth all that? How much extra would that be?

The 1LE is already fun and a good chunk of it is paid for. My main thing is it feels a little slow, even though it can do a 12.3 ET. I know the Stingray is faster and that is part of the charm. Both are superlative on a race track, but of course a Z51 will run and hide from just about any 1LE. however I can't see myself at 10/10ths with either car on a race track.

So what is the 1LE missing? Power. How would I fix that? With a centrifugal supercharger. It acts more like a turbo so it is harder to break things. It is lighter than other supercharger types and does not aggravate heat soak. If I do this my goal would be mild, say 525-550 RWHP. With this safe power level low 11s should be attainable. Then later after I pay it off and I still want to get the Stingray, I can put my 1LE back to stock and sell/trade it and sell the bolt-ons. I know I would lose my warranty, but Camaros are so reliable, the drive train warranty is rarely needed.

At that point Stingray fever will have died down and there will be quite a few Z51 trade ins going for the next hottest thing, the new Z06. So there will be discounting on Z51s and there will be used ones floating around.

So the Birthday decision is down to this:
  1. 1LE + SC = Big fun + $$ for later
  2. 1LE + $$ + Z51 - 1LE = Slightly bigger fun maybe - $$ for later

#1 in the lead at the moment. To be continued.
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:42 PM   #106
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I have found i prefer leaning on the side of not buying something then buying it if i regret it i can always buy it later. Buyers remorse is the worst getting a new toy only to realize its not much or any better then old toy and it cost you 20 grand oh that would burn my a$$. I bought pool table for my basement tv room 2000 bucks used it few times now its just junk table, its like its laughing at me every time i walk by it.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:10 PM   #107
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I have found i prefer leaning on the side of not buying something then buying it if i regret it i can always buy it later. Buyers remorse is the worst getting a new toy only to realize its not much or any better then old toy and it cost you 20 grand oh that would burn my a$$. I bought pool table for my basement tv room 2000 bucks used it few times now its just junk table, its like its laughing at me every time i walk by it.
That there is good advice.
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:08 PM   #108
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My dad got his 2LT Stingray last week

My dad got his 14 Stingray Auto-6 2LT NON-Z51 (grumble grumble) last week after a 13 week wait. (The part constraints are mostly Z51-related outages.). His purchase was in response to my 13 1LE. He sold his Mercedes SLK280 a couple months after driving my 1LE.

He sure as hell one-upped me with the Vette. I put 75 miles on it this past week, and it is a phenomenal ride. As much as I trumpet the aggressive handling of the 1LE, I can call a spade a spade and say the Vette is the way to go. The darn thing even gets better gas mileage even without cylinder deactivation in Eco mode. The better aeros and the 450-ish fewer pounds make a helluva difference. The Z51 bits would only add to my pain.

Go to the Chevy website for the Stingray and you can see comparisons with other selected rides, but you can change one of those rides with our beloved Camaros (albeit without the 1LE package).

I feel incredible satisfaction with my 1LE, but piloting the new Stingray would be my choice if I had the coin.
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You have worked hard all your life go spoil yourself. If if doesn't ruined your finances i would be all over that. You only live once.
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Old 02-05-2014, 04:48 PM   #110
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I vote for keeping the 1LE and modding and tinkering with it for fun. The Vette has more prestige yes. There are always nicer cars, nicer houses, etc. How about a Porsche GT3? Wait for the Gen6 Camaro? How about the next GT500 (or will be called GT350) on the new 'Stang chassis?

Your 1LE has speed by the numbers, but from what you are saying you want more pick up. Could 4.11 gears do that?
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My dad got his 14 Stingray Auto-6 2LT NON-Z51 (grumble grumble) last week after a 13 week wait. (The part constraints are mostly Z51-related outages.). His purchase was in response to my 13 1LE. He sold his Mercedes SLK280 a couple months after driving my 1LE.

He sure as hell one-upped me with the Vette. I put 75 miles on it this past week, and it is a phenomenal ride. As much as I trumpet the aggressive handling of the 1LE, I can call a spade a spade and say the Vette is the way to go. The darn thing even gets better gas mileage even without cylinder deactivation in Eco mode. The better aeros and the 450-ish fewer pounds make a helluva difference. The Z51 bits would only add to my pain.

Go to the Chevy website for the Stingray and you can see comparisons with other selected rides, but you can change one of those rides with our beloved Camaros (albeit without the 1LE package).

I feel incredible satisfaction with my 1LE, but piloting the new Stingray would be my choice if I had the coin.

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You have worked hard all your life go spoil yourself. If if doesn't ruined your finances i would be all over that. You only live once.
Wow, I have worked hard and will do so for years to come. I do deserve it.
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I vote for keeping the 1LE and modding and tinkering with it for fun. The Vette has more prestige yes. There are always nicer cars, nicer houses, etc. How about a Porsche GT3? Wait for the Gen6 Camaro? How about the next GT500 (or will be called GT350) on the new 'Stang chassis?

Your 1LE has speed by the numbers, but from what you are saying you want more pick up. Could 4.11 gears do that?
I like Porsches but owning one can be very expensive. A new GT3 is way out of my range, but yea, that's my favorite. I like the Stingray, not really for prestige but for all the HiPo tech and big Corvette improvements. I just know I would dig owning one.

But like you said tinkering is fun. I would do the same with the Z51. And I think the Stingray may be US high performance water mark for a few years. So the 6th gen Camaro and future GT 350 I am sure will be improvements over the 1LE. I am not sure either will match the Stingray. I am looking into FI so speed will not be a problem if I go that way.
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What a tough choice! I could see both sides. 1LE is a very special car. I'm sure you probably don't care about exclusivity, but I'm sure, in time, Stingrays will be out in droves compared to the 1LE. I don't know if you plan on keeping the Stingray if you get it, but I've always had a certain respect for people who get a car and keep it forever. It just shows a real appreciation for the car. I'll admit I haven't been one of those guys, but I really see myself staying with my 1LE for a VERY long time, even with the 6th gen soon approaching. Just a thought.

Also, if you do decide to go with the Stingray, I would wait for the 2015, with your love of tracking. That new video system they recently debuted will be available then, and although I'm sure you could just use a GoPro or something similar, the program from GM sounds like it will be light years ahead of anything aftermarket.
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What a tough choice! I could see both sides. 1LE is a very special car. I'm sure you probably don't care about exclusivity, but I'm sure, in time, Stingrays will be out in droves compared to the 1LE. I don't know if you plan on keeping the Stingray if you get it, but I've always had a certain respect for people who get a car and keep it forever. It just shows a real appreciation for the car. I'll admit I haven't been one of those guys, but I really see myself staying with my 1LE for a VERY long time, even with the 6th gen soon approaching. Just a thought.

Also, if you do decide to go with the Stingray, I would wait for the 2015, with your love of tracking. That new video system they recently debuted will be available then, and although I'm sure you could just use a GoPro or something similar, the program from GM sounds like it will be light years ahead of anything aftermarket.
Yes, waiting is the smartest option. C7s will hit the used market and get cheaper. And staying with the 1LE is no penalty box. I can see why it is a keeper. Really only 2 negatives, visibility and the weight. Still exploring the FI option. My reservation there is I have seen owners having trouble handling too much power. And I remember from my last bike, a C14, where else besides a track can you use a 10 second vehicle? And I may have to get a cage if I go too crazy.
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Oh man do not go to the dealer. I did yesterday luckily they were closed but they have 20-30 new stingrays in there. They are amazing looking up close going by Wednesday to look at those and test drive 1LE. see if i can test drive a vette I hope they don't let me or i might end up buying or ordering one.
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Yes, waiting is the smartest option. C7s will hit the used market and get cheaper. And staying with the 1LE is no penalty box. I can see why it is a keeper. Really only 2 negatives, visibility and the weight. Still exploring the FI option. My reservation there is I have seen owners having trouble handling too much power. And I remember from my last bike, a C14, where else besides a track can you use a 10 second vehicle? And I may have to get a cage if I go too crazy.
This is the most logical idea. You have a car to drive that is very cool and you love. So play the waiting game and enjoy your 1LE.
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This is the most logical idea. You have a car to drive that is very cool and you love. So play the waiting game and enjoy your 1LE.
Yes, still working on this. I sat in a C7 at the Philly Car Show and I fit perfectly. I also am talking to Chris at ECS about adding a centrifugal. He thought a cam might suit me better but agreed it would be harder to return to stock with a cam. Over all if I sell the SC later used, the SC would be cheaper overall than trying to return a cammed car back to stock. Unless I start breaking things.

Liking the SC idea.
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:57 AM   #118
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Keep the 1LE, buy a nice low mile C6 Corvette - have both cars and wait for used C7 drop in price. You will have the best of both worlds.
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:07 PM   #119
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Go for the C7 but keep in mind if you plan on any mods in the future, the "Corvette Tax" comes into play - meaning any aftermarket part made for the Corvette, is always more expensive than the same part made for a Camaro, Mustang, or Challenger.
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