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Old 02-21-2014, 09:41 AM   #251
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Sorry I was not clear. I don't remember the size but the MT DRs look skinny and are low profile. If he leaves at anything but idle he spins. So the 1.8s are the norm.

My friend runs Tim's time if I remember the MPH at 116+ with only those mods I listed at stock weight. No gears, skinnies, and no LTs. His goal was 11s with a minimum of mods. A converter is overkill to him. On a good DA night he will run consistent 11.9s. But he is getting bored with that. So he might add the convertor, LTs, Boss manifold, and bigger DRs to go for 10s.

Agreed its all about weight. But mod for mod the Mustang GT 2011+ is faster than a 5th gen SS. That is why 5.0s are faster. The engines each have advantages over the other, but in the end arrive at just about the same place. Although I think the LS engines can handle really big FI power a little better than 302s. Just my opinion.

But isn't it fun to beat a faster car with a slower one? That is why mine is a Camaro SS M6.
Ford's "aluminator" 302 can handle huge power.
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Yep, no way one of you MN6 guys is gonna leave the line at 6,000 rpms.

Have fun guys, screw Mustangs I'm out. I just like to race them not gush on about them.
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Yes we met at ATCO when my car was a week old. I got 3 runs and left early cause it has horrible. My best run was my frist run ever with the car and it was 13.1 @ 110. I think on the second run I wheel hoped so much that i missed a shift and on the third run the tires just let loose in second ruining the run. It was a cold night and as you know the Goodyears turn into plastic trays at those temps. Have not been back since and most likely won't be back as I bought the 1LE for Autox/Track days.
1le are the best lookin camaro's ever imo...nice ride.
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yeah I bought a 1le spoiler to add to my car can't wait to put it on.

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Yep, no way one of you MN6 guys is gonna leave the line at 6,000 rpms.

Have fun guys, screw Mustangs I'm out. I just like to race them not gush on about them.
Funny! Not gushing, but respect. I have driven both and while I like Mustangs I like my Camaro much better. But I lose to them, sometimes. I am going to fix that.

Novie LE has owned both and wrote up a very concise spot on comparison. He owns a 1LE so you know his conclusion. As muscle car owners we can't get all worked up about faster cars, it will always be thus. In the next couple of years we may have other cars to whine about other than 5.0s.
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yeah I bought a 1le spoiler to add to my car can't wait to put it on.

That is already one bad ass looking car. Super clean. You are making me put my Heritage grill on.
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:55 PM   #257
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Ford's "aluminator" 302 can handle huge power.
I was thinking stock block. If we start looking at the catalogs things get fun fast. It is a good time to be a motor head. Even better than back in the day.
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:56 PM   #258
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:57 PM   #259
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If she wants to drive one, I am in the south Chandler area about once a week, she's more then welcome to. Mine is a bit modified, but it's pretty mild. I fixed that 5% that Ford left on the table with some subtle mods.
Hey thanks for offer. I think shes bs'n though, on any given day she likes the new vette(who doesnt), the challenger, and now the new gen mustang.
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ive gone against a lot of new 5.0 stangs and we seem dead even...just my input making mods is what its all about for me....who can put together the best package and your always gunna have the one faster than the other ...the manufacturers do that to compete with eachother at least thats how i see it
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:37 AM   #261
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My stock 2010 SS has never been beaten by a stock GT. No matter what year it is. 2010 up to 2014. I do not know what drag strip you all go to but it has never happened in Fayetteville N.C. Bring your GT (Stock) and we'll see and make a video.
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The new 5.0's are lighter, have closer transmission gearing, and similar power.

From a previous post I made:

DA was 3323

I drove both my car (SS) and the wife's car (5.0) tonight within 15 minutes of each other. Say what you want but with the same driver, power shifting both cars, same track, same 60'... the 5.0 was simply faster and would have run even better had it not spun through half of second gear and the first part of third gear.

SS - 13.3 @ 108 2.0 60'
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5.0 - 13.1 @ 109 2.0 60'
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Corrected for altitude the times would have been:

SS - 12.7 @ 112
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The point I am making is in an actual race a 5.0 has never beaten my SS. Once you actually get in a race side by side, things happen.
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The point I am making is in an actual race a 5.0 has never beaten my SS. Once you actually get in a race side by side, things happen.
I was answering the thread title question.
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Do you have a ZL1 or SS?

Stock for stock I was right there, I did go 13.15. But I had SS friends who went slower like 13.4's who got beat.
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I have a SS and a ZL1 and a Stingray. Actually the Stingray is the wifes and has not been on the track as of yet.
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I use to have an SS and now have a ZL1.
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Stock for stock, drivers race. Equal drivers 5.0 FTW. Physics. Get over it.

It is still possible to like and enjoy your slower SS. And if you regularly beat stock 5.0s with your stock SS, respect. You can drive. If you ran into my friend with his pure stock 5.0 GT auto you would lose. 12.4@114 uncorrected. The real ET on a good DA night. He spent 100+ runs perfecting his launch coming down from starting at 13.1. And he can drive, he will tree you if you are sleepy. That being said most coyote stock autos I see at Atco are running right around 13.1+- depending on the DA. 6Ms are all over the map. Autos FTW.
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Had I seen with my own eyes a stock GT auto crank off a 12.4@114 I would have been seriously tempted to go Blue Oval. I had an SS ordered and canceled it in 2009 cuz it was so heavy.

I think of the 30 or so cars I've owned there were 6 Fords but 20 GM's
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Had I seen with my own eyes a stock GT auto crank off a 12.4@114 I would have been seriously tempted to go Blue Oval. I had an SS ordered and canceled it in 2009 cuz it was so heavy.

I think of the 30 or so cars I've owned there were 6 Fords but 20 GM's
I have driven my friends GT several times at the track. At Atco, the end of the track is a bit rough, especially in the left lane. Even with my 1LE's stiffer suspension, it eats up the track at the rough end. In his car I thought he had a flat. There was a lot of rumbling and bumping. But then back in the lanes he was puzzled as his tire pressures were fine. Then when I drove it after that it felt the same way. It was that the GT did not handle the bumps very well at 116+ mph. I get more of a feeling of quality in the Camaro. I think the IRS and much stiffer chassis gives you more of a sense of confidence in the car. Even though his car is faster I prefer mine. I want one of each. But if I could only have one it will be the SS.

The first time I drove his car in the quarter, I ran 12.2 to his 11.9 LOL. Just to keep it fair, he could not break out of the 13s in my car, where I was running 12.4s that night The manual is a challenge. But it could be that he did not want to break my car and he was taking it easy. Either way, we were both faster in our own car.
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Had I seen with my own eyes a stock GT auto crank off a 12.4@114 I would have been seriously tempted to go Blue Oval. I had an SS ordered and canceled it in 2009 cuz it was so heavy.

I think of the 30 or so cars I've owned there were 6 Fords but 20 GM's
I live where the air is very good so 12.4-12.7 is normal for stock 5.0s with a driver mod. Just depends on air. Simple mods like tune and cat deletes with dr's they are 11's.. I think the 1le and auto GT are the two most fun cars at the moment and owning both would be very cool. They are totally diff and you can't go wrong with either one.
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My stock 2010 SS has never been beaten by a stock GT. No matter what year it is. 2010 up to 2014. I do not know what drag strip you all go to but it has never happened in Fayetteville N.C. Bring your GT (Stock) and we'll see and make a video.

If I was closer I'd take you up on that offer as many times as you wanted lol



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I have driven my friends GT several times at the track. At Atco, the end of the track is a bit rough, especially in the left lane. Even with my 1LE's stiffer suspension, it eats up the track at the rough end. In his car I thought he had a flat. There was a lot of rumbling and bumping. But then back in the lanes he was puzzled as his tire pressures were fine. Then when I drove it after that it felt the same way. It was that the GT did not handle the bumps very well at 116+ mph. I get more of a feeling of quality in the Camaro. I think the IRS and much stiffer chassis gives you more of a sense of confidence in the car. Even though his car is faster I prefer mine. I want one of each. But if I could only have one it will be the SS.

The first time I drove his car in the quarter, I ran 12.2 to his 11.9 LOL. Just to keep it fair, he could not break out of the 13s in my car, where I was running 12.4s that night The manual is a challenge. But it could be that he did not want to break my car and he was taking it easy. Either way, we were both faster in our own car.

Iv had both at the same time and it's awesome. The Camaro is definitely the better cruiser and inspires more confidence. The mustang was for when I wanted to race lol... I loved each for different reasons, but the Mustang was the faster of the two no doubt.
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I live where the air is very good so 12.4-12.7 is normal for stock 5.0s with a driver mod. Just depends on air. Simple mods like tune and cat deletes with dr's they are 11's.. I think the 1le and auto GT are the two most fun cars at the moment and owning both would be very cool. They are totally diff and you can't go wrong with either one.
Yup. In order to start beating lightly modded 5.0 autos I am getting turboed. Then I can go 5.0 bolt-on hunting.
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[QUOTE=Pro Stock John;7439225]yeah I bought a 1le spoiler to add to my car can't wait to put it on.

How much was the spoiler?
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A copy, thread in the classifieds if you search...exterior forum
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