Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Dyno Max
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons

Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-20-2014, 09:18 PM   #1
TheBandit18

 
TheBandit18's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss M6
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 788
Which oil to use on cam

I am going to be installing my cam this weekend and I was curious on what oil to use.

My last car I ran the Valvoline vr1 but that is not sold anymore.

Soooooo.... Any suggestions?
TheBandit18 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 09:20 PM   #2
TheBandit18

 
TheBandit18's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss M6
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 788
Im using the stock oil pump by the way didn't know if it made a diffence
TheBandit18 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 09:53 PM   #3
rberns


 
rberns's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 2,726
I plan on using Amsoil Zrod once I get my cam in.
__________________
2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valve Train, Cam Motion custom grind, ARH 1 7/8, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, LS2 Dampner, Trunion upgrade, LS9 head gaskets, RX CC, GFX, Subs.
rberns is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 10:01 PM   #4
B-_-RAD
Banned
 
Drives: ...
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: ...
Posts: 403
Vr1 is still available at oreilly and napa. I would look into driven racing oil.
B-_-RAD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 10:12 PM   #5
axis
Search Ninja
 
axis's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Central Ark
Posts: 7,185
OIL
__________________
2010 Black 2SS/RS A6
Halltech CF 102 fed
GPI modded intake manifold
Bo (knows) White ported TB
Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT
Pfadted (springs/sways)
Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI

I once parallel parked a train.
axis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 12:07 AM   #6
JCunningham

 
JCunningham's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 SIM 2SS/RS
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Attica, NY
Posts: 1,852
I use Amsoil now but think i will go with Driven LS30 after i install the cam. I will use driven BR30 brake in oil at 1500-2000 rpm for 20-30min until full operating temp when I 1st start with new cam and change it with BR30 and run for 500miles. then do LS30 as Driven suggests with a LS engine.
__________________
2012 2SS/RS M6 SIM, Painted Carbon Flash rally stripes, Elite CC, 3.91 gears, New Era ported TB, OTR, and Dyno Tune, Heritage Grill, Night Fury cam, 25%Fluidampr, Melling 296 Oil pump, Katech CR-5 chain, Cloyes LS2 HD tensioner, PAC 1205x springs and Comp Cams trunions. ARH 1 7/8" LT headers w/cats, TWM full Shifter, BMR sways, trailing arms, toe rods, delrin cradle bushings, BK039 rear control bushings, front bushings. Solo Mach-XL exhaust
JCunningham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 07:43 AM   #7
TheBandit18

 
TheBandit18's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss M6
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 788
Well I dont have time to order the ls30. I was looking at tge royal purple. Is that good and in 5w-30 or 10w-30
TheBandit18 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 07:51 AM   #8
BooSSted
 
BooSSted's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 VR 2SS
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: NY
Posts: 576
High ZDDP ...

VR1, Z Rod are my choices.
BooSSted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 08:04 AM   #9
Mb6000
 
Mb6000's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: WI
Posts: 67
I will be using ls30 in a couple of weeks when I do my cam swap as well.
__________________
'11 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 M6| Black on Black| BMR Strut Brace| P&P Throttle Body| Cold Air Inductions Black CAI| 2" TSP LT Headers| Cat-Back Exhaust| Night Fury Cam| Brian Tooley Valvetrain| Melling 10296| C5R chain| Comp Cam rocker kit| 3.91 1LE Gear Kit| 480hp/454tq
Mb6000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 08:09 AM   #10
TheBandit18

 
TheBandit18's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss M6
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 788
I would do that but im putting the cam in tomorrow since people are saying vr1 you talking about the 10w-30 racing oil?
TheBandit18 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 08:12 AM   #11
casper sc/1ss/rs
 
casper sc/1ss/rs's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 camaro ss vortech supercharged
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: marion VA.
Posts: 518
I run Mobil1 with lucas
casper sc/1ss/rs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 08:14 AM   #12
strych9
Gone Euro!
 
strych9's Avatar
 
Drives: 6spd Manual Mercedes
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 3,033
Using Mobil 1, but switched to 10W-30 instead of 5W-30. Despite other opinions, high ZDDP has no real benefit for a roller cam. Flat tappet, yes...roller, no. While not crucial to our engines, high ZDDP won't hurt anything either, as long as you are running without catalytic converters. High ZDDP with ruin them.

Mobil 1 has an excellent film strength rating, which is very important for high-RPM engines that have racing valve springs. The high valve-spring pressures can ruin a cam if your oil has a weaker film-strength rating. Pennzoil Ultra is also an excellent "over-the-counter" choice. You can compare ratings in an older thread I started here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304435
__________________
Bye bye, Bumblebee!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
strych9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 09:32 AM   #13
Threlkeld's SS
 
Threlkeld's SS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 camaro ss
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: ft lewis,wa
Posts: 282
I plan to use ls30 as well I got a good deal on a 12qt case($112 shipped)
Threlkeld's SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 09:51 AM   #14
B-_-RAD
Banned
 
Drives: ...
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: ...
Posts: 403
You can get driven oil local in most places. Do the dealer search on their site. I got ls30 $8.35 a quart and br30 $7.75 a qt. Comparable prices at two driven oil distributors within 10 mins of me.
B-_-RAD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 10:40 AM   #15
Jason 98 TA


 
Drives: Camaro
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,365
We stock the LS specific Joe Gibbs oil here.
Jason 98 TA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 11:33 AM   #16
TheBandit18

 
TheBandit18's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss M6
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 788
Ill more than likely use the ls30 on the oil change. How is the penzoil platnium 5w30? Heard a little about it
TheBandit18 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 11:43 AM   #17
B-_-RAD
Banned
 
Drives: ...
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: ...
Posts: 403
http://www.drivenracingoil.com/dro/dealer-search/
B-_-RAD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 12:22 PM   #18
JCunningham

 
JCunningham's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 SIM 2SS/RS
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Attica, NY
Posts: 1,852
summit racing has the driven oil in stock. there ground shipping is over night to me. from OH to NY. Comp Cams recommends break in oil with Hi ZDDP on their roller cams. doesnt matter if engine is new or not.
http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/showt...6611#post56611 Joe Gibbs is Driven oil
__________________
2012 2SS/RS M6 SIM, Painted Carbon Flash rally stripes, Elite CC, 3.91 gears, New Era ported TB, OTR, and Dyno Tune, Heritage Grill, Night Fury cam, 25%Fluidampr, Melling 296 Oil pump, Katech CR-5 chain, Cloyes LS2 HD tensioner, PAC 1205x springs and Comp Cams trunions. ARH 1 7/8" LT headers w/cats, TWM full Shifter, BMR sways, trailing arms, toe rods, delrin cradle bushings, BK039 rear control bushings, front bushings. Solo Mach-XL exhaust
JCunningham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 06:39 PM   #19
Cat988h
 
Cat988h's Avatar
 
Drives: Rally yellow 2011 Camaro 1SSRS
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Parksville Bc
Posts: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by strych9 View Post
Using Mobil 1, but switched to 10W-30 instead of 5W-30. Despite other opinions, high ZDDP has no real benefit for a roller cam. Flat tappet, yes...roller, no. While not crucial to our engines, high ZDDP won't hurt anything either, as long as you are running without catalytic converters. High ZDDP with ruin them.

Mobil 1 has an excellent film strength rating, which is very important for high-RPM engines that have racing valve springs. The high valve-spring pressures can ruin a cam if your oil has a weaker film-strength rating. Pennzoil Ultra is also an excellent "over-the-counter" choice. You can compare ratings in an older thread I started here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304435
As for ZPPD not being helpful to roller cams, I seem to think other wise new cams have been eating them self up at a staggering rate. With the higher spring pressures on the lobes the zinc is a very welcome thing. Since oil manufacturers started lower the levels of ZPPD in oil, comp and other company's have seen an increase in failures on there roller cams. Take this for what you want but a little research on the topic will uncover the truth. For this reason I use Amsoil Z-rod.
__________________
ATI Super Damper, Katech C5R Chain, Jannetty 470 Comp Cam, Comp Valve Springs, Mellings Oil Pump, Manley Push Rods, Comp Tringion Upgrade, Cold Air Inductions Intake, 1-7/8 American Racing Headers w Cats, MBRP 3 Inch Exhaust, RX Catch Can, Eaton Tru Trac, 3.91 OEM, DSS Drive And Half Shafts, LPW Diff Cover,3 Inch Noweeds, Amsoil Z-Rod, Tuned by Jannetty Racing
Cat988h is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2014, 08:42 AM   #20
christianchevell
old school chevy rodder
 
christianchevell's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,210
I got my driven racing oil for the break in through a local auto parts store ....baxter, they show the dealers on the driven website, and I have 8 qts of br30 sitting on 8qts of ls30 waiting for the install. And I hope you are going to break in the engine properly and have a tuner lined up. And have pre selected the proper rod length, and have gone over the ls2 dampener thing.... And hopefully your 2010 is not one of the early builds that had more oil pump failures than any other Camaros..they all are melling even stock so it should be o.k. however if the relief valve ever sticks and you go to no oil pressure turn it off in a micro second. Ands I hope you have all the specialty tools lined up to do the job.

Heres stuff on synthetics.... http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g3115.pdf
__________________
2013 2SS/RS LS3 M6 ,CRT, 500rwhp 460 torque mustang dyno,dual mode ,sunroof ,heritage grill clear bra, TSP cam, Stainless power headers HFC, CAI induction, Vmax PTD,Fluidampr25% udp, LPW diff cover, BMR strut brace,trailing arms, toes, bushings, Rocket racing wheels, catch can, separate clutch reservoir, under dash/body lights/scanner LED, DRL lights/halos rewire, Dash kit, Custom striping and Sparks badges and Engine badge, Corvette Stainless engine cover, mild to wild, coming soon Eaton true trac and 3.91's
christianchevell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2014, 01:06 PM   #21
fldrummer
"Black Ace"
 
fldrummer's Avatar
 
Drives: 2SS/RS black/black
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 1,731
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat988h View Post
As for ZPPD not being helpful to roller cams, I seem to think other wise new cams have been eating them self up at a staggering rate. With the higher spring pressures on the lobes the zinc is a very welcome thing. Since oil manufacturers started lower the levels of ZPPD in oil, comp and other company's have seen an increase in failures on there roller cams. Take this for what you want but a little research on the topic will uncover the truth. For this reason I use Amsoil Z-rod.
If anyone wants proof, I'm one of the said victims. Learn from my mistake!...
Attached Images
  
__________________
2010 2SS/RS M6 "Black Ace" - Delivered 6/4/2009
Mods: Forged LS3 (9.8:1 CR), Maggie TVS 2300 SC with OD rear pulley, Custom Comp cam (223/244, .610/.596, 114 LSA), Monster LT1-SC twin-disk clutch, Dynotech 1-piece driveshaft, CAI Inc. intake w/ ADM scoop, XS Power full exhaust (1 7/8" LT headers with 3" off-road pipes), VMAX CNC-ported TB, LSR adjustable sway bars, LPE rear end-links, BMR 1" drop, BMR polyurethane bushings; UMI trailing arms & toe rods. 572 rwhp/548 rwtq (Mustang Dyno, maxed-out injectors).
fldrummer is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.