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Old 02-21-2014, 10:28 AM   #18
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Sounds like a Maggie is in your future!
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:36 AM   #19
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All those PD numbers are crank. the 599 eforce/etc. Most do upper 400s on a stock l99 car.

A turbo kit on a stock l99 car has done 700rwhp and can be turned down, no headers, pulleys, cam, cold airs, etc. Small turbos have full boost at 2k and make way more torque but if you don't want that, I would get a whipple, nice headers, cold air, 8 rib kit, fuel system, injectors, etc. Probably going to run $11-13k but it would be a fun car.
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:39 AM   #20
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All those PD numbers are crank. the 599 eforce/etc. Most do upper 400s on a stock l99 car.

A turbo kit on a stock l99 car has done 700rwhp and can be turned down, no headers, pulleys, cam, cold airs, etc. Small turbos have full boost at 2k and make way more torque but if you don't want that, I would get a whipple, nice headers, cold air, 8 rib kit, fuel system, injectors, etc. Probably going to run $11-13k but it would be a fun car.
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:42 AM   #21
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The Maggie is THE blower for the 5th gen IMO. It is perfect for what your looking for.My wifes auto vert puts nearly 500 to the tire with headers and the Maggie only.She drives it an hr each way to work every day and I take it to the track every once in a while and run high 11s on the 22s. I can help you out with a great price and the extra things you may need with it...
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:28 AM   #22
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I like my SS LS3 to look like Chevrolet built it that way, so I picked the Edelbrock E-Force S/C. The E-Force and Maggie make about the same power, but I liked the looks of the E-Force better. Mine is strictly a street car, so I don't need maximum HP. 546/rwhp & 522/rwtq is enough for me for the street. I have also up graded the fuel system, rear suspension and axles. I had a safe dyno tune just for safety. The S/C has been on for 3 1/2 years and 25,500 miles with no problems at all. Still gets 24.5/mpg on a trip.

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Old 02-21-2014, 11:55 AM   #23
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hrpiii, thanks for the info! The longest trip I've taken my Camaro on, straight through, was a 15 hour trip from PA to MO to visit the family and I wanted to make sure that it would still be able to make that trip. What suspension mods have you done to handle that power? Also, how have you liked your Solo setup? I was going to buy one for my G8, but never got the chance. I assume you went cat back and not just axle back?
Love my Solo, they are cat back. I have Pedders subframe inserts, Pfadt trailing arms, BMR toe rods, Pfadt endlinks along with Pfadt lowering springs. Zero issues with the long drives, and this was July 4th weekend, through the mountains (Indy to east coast NC). I have had several 3-4 hours drives up to MI for shows/events and enjoyed every one. One trip back MI, me and another member here, kept it rolling about 90 mph for over 100 miles, that was fun Never had any heat issues. The only suspension I want to make now is new halfshafts. (Gforce) I think that is probably my weak link now (as far as putting it down the track). As far as street use, I would not have any issues with anything else on the car.

With a supercharger, you will need to upgrade your fuel system. I have the ZL1 fuel pump, and zero issues with that.
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:56 AM   #24
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Come take a ride in my turbo car and you will be singing a different tune on the "lag" you speak of....
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:45 PM   #25
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love the slp..0 problems in 6000 miles....
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:07 PM   #26
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OP, do it right the first time....buy once cry once!!! AGP TT kit is the way to go. Wish i went that route to begin with.
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:38 PM   #27
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Bo, Bull, and Jchaluja, I don't have much experience with turbos other than what I have heard from people who had older turbos (10ish years ago) and what my F-150 has now (Ford can keep their two turbos, I want my two cylinders back!). If turbo lag from aftermarket kits are gone now, then awesome, but that's where I was coming from. Still concerned about streetability for day to day driving and long trips with turbos, especially if they are hidden mounted like I would like to keep the "sleeper" look to the car. Side note, Bo I miss reading your GXP posts on the G8board. Wish I had the $$ to have bought it off of you!

Ted, thanks for the info on what to expect difference wise between the Whipple and others. I would rather have the power more instantaneously and I don't plan on going crazy with the power so something like the 2300's would be more what I'm looking for. You mentioned the stock parts handle the power well until you start racing, do you mean every weekend at the strip or just the occasional hard pull will wreak havoc on the stock parts. I saw you suggested axles, how hard are those to replace and can someone who has never done it before do it in a garage with a jack and stands relatively easily?

For those of you who are of the strong opinions that it is Maggie or nothing, what makes you favor a magnacharger over the SLP supercharger?
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:41 PM   #28
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Love my Solo, they are cat back. I have Pedders subframe inserts, Pfadt trailing arms, BMR toe rods, Pfadt endlinks along with Pfadt lowering springs. Zero issues with the long drives, and this was July 4th weekend, through the mountains (Indy to east coast NC). I have had several 3-4 hours drives up to MI for shows/events and enjoyed every one. One trip back MI, me and another member here, kept it rolling about 90 mph for over 100 miles, that was fun Never had any heat issues. The only suspension I want to make now is new halfshafts. (Gforce) I think that is probably my weak link now (as far as putting it down the track). As far as street use, I would not have any issues with anything else on the car.

With a supercharger, you will need to upgrade your fuel system. I have the ZL1 fuel pump, and zero issues with that.
How has the ride quality changed since you made the suspension mods? I had eibach springs on the car when I test drove it, but the owner offered to put the factory springs back on if I wanted. At the time I did because the eibach's made the car ride like a wagon, handled like it was on rails, but road hard which wasn't going to be ideal for my wife just coming off of a serious accident. Do you feel a real hard ride with your setup you have now?
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:44 PM   #29
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Side note, Bo I miss reading your GXP posts on the G8board. Wish I had the $$ to have bought it off of you!
I still post over there, just not as much. I knew I had the wrong vehicle overall for my goal. Loved the GXP, just hated there was only 1829 built. My SS matches my goals better than any other vehicle out there and am satisfied with it.
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I am in the same boat as OP. I had a really nice all motor build on my 06 GTO but after almost 10 grand into it, it still only made 455 rwhp 431 trq and averaged a pathetic 13.5 mgp (through the A4 tranny). My dealership is a certified SLP dealer. They sell SLP Camaros similar to a Nickey Chicago or Yenko Camaro right there at the dealership, and they are very overpriced. Everything retains the factory warranty.

They sell the SLP TVS2300 supercharger and install a "canned tune" and give your car back to you and say it's got 600hp. I know they are talking about crank HP, not wheel. They also offer a SLP Performance Pack for 4 grand that has the SLP Blackwing cai, SLP headers, and your choice of 3 different SLP cat back exhausts that is supposed to be good for 70hp. The thing is, I've never heard of an SLP supercharger until I bought this car and visited that dealership. I'm assuming it works just like the TVS Maggy and E-Force, and Whipple, and Kenne Bell and whatever else is out there. My question is, why is the SLP so much cheaper? It's like a grand to 1500 less than a Maggy? Do they cut corners in quality or materials used if they're using the same Eaton guts on the inside?
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How has the ride quality changed since you made the suspension mods? I had eibach springs on the car when I test drove it, but the owner offered to put the factory springs back on if I wanted. At the time I did because the eibach's made the car ride like a wagon, handled like it was on rails, but road hard which wasn't going to be ideal for my wife just coming off of a serious accident. Do you feel a real hard ride with your setup you have now?
I am not familiar with the difference in the ride 'feel' from Pfadt to Eibachs, but any drop spring will be a little stiffer than stock. It does NOT feel like a wagon though, , and I do not have any 'teeth jarring' moments where I was like "I need coilovers NOW". I will eventually go with coilovers to improve the ride quality, but it is not the top of my list as I am satisfied with that at the moment. I had all the suspension mods done months before the S/C, so I was ready when I got to that point. The inserts probably help plant the rear the best with the S/C. The other pieces are there to prevent wheelhop when launching the car hard.

New Sway - best handling improvement to the car
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New toe/trailing arms - has eliminated any wheel hop on hard launches
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:28 AM   #32
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Ted, thanks for the info on what to expect difference wise between the Whipple and others. I would rather have the power more instantaneously and I don't plan on going crazy with the power so something like the 2300's would be more what I'm looking for. You mentioned the stock parts handle the power well until you start racing, do you mean every weekend at the strip or just the occasional hard pull will wreak havoc on the stock parts. I saw you suggested axles, how hard are those to replace and can someone who has never done it before do it in a garage with a jack and stands relatively easily?
Meaning Rear end parts and axles they always seem to be the first to go at a drag race, we always bring spares to the C5 Events and always sell and install them for someone.

Wheel hop is the most Destructive regardless of Stock or Not Power levels.

A set of Quality Trailing arms and toe links with a REAL alignment (not set the toe and let it go alignment) will practically eliminate Wheel hop.

Axles are a Remove and Replace operation but will require some Large tools to undo and torque the big nut behind the Wheel LOL.

The SLP is the newest Player in the Market of 2300s and they took everything best about the other kits and made it better, with Less Parts, and Easiest installation and a bold new look.

The SLP Charger is Designed and Built by Roush which is an impressive Resume.

Like I said we Love them all and use them all so ultimately you have to decide which one you like best.

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love the slp..0 problems in 6000 miles....

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