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Old 03-04-2014, 06:54 PM   #239
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Disappointing to hear such a key system is reliant on a particular grounding point. You'd like to think that switching to this type of system should include some additional safety ground straps.

That said, this is another instance of installation of an aftermarket part having unintended consequences.

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I don't think that the grounding point 'has' to be there, it's just that if you're going to move it, you MUST make sure the area where to attach it is well prepared to insure a good ground contact with the metal.

If I were to mount the ground somewhere else, I would be darned sure to scrape the area right down to bare metal to make absolutely sure that it was contacting the metal directly. You never know what kinds of coatings there may be that 'might' prevent an absolute positive ground.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:23 PM   #240
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Aluminum engines don't help - if I recall aluminum oxide is an insulator. Iron oxide is a conductor. Maybe its just that - metal needed a good scuffing.

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Old 03-04-2014, 08:32 PM   #241
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Picked up the car.

Spoke to the service adviser who said that it had two codes in the BCM (steering wheel angle sensor and multi-axis sensors), but because they found the ground bolt/wire loose they tightened it up.

He also said that the vibrations from the subwoofer probably loosened the bolt and was causing the codes. I looked at him...like really??? He said "yeah I know, I don't buy it either but I am required to recommend that you remove the subwoofer and CAI for best performance"...shook his hand and left.

I'll drive it the next couple days and see what's up. Hopefully it was just that simple!
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:49 AM   #242
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Heard of a couple having this problem but I have not had any issues with my car at all.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:42 PM   #243
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lmao -sub loosened bolt..wow
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:47 AM   #244
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Aluminum engines don't help - if I recall aluminum oxide is an insulator. Iron oxide is a conductor. Maybe its just that - metal needed a good scuffing.

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Almost 100% of the US uses Alluminum power lines for the grid. It absolutely does conduct electricity. Alluminum is in no way an insulator.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:50 AM   #245
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Almost 100% of the US uses Alluminum power lines for the grid. It absolutely does conduct electricity. Alluminum is in no way an insulator.
Aluminum is a conductor

Aluminum Oxide is not.

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Old 03-18-2014, 10:12 AM   #246
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lmao -sub loosened bolt..wow
Vibration can and will loosen things, and unless you know for sure that this bolt was not at a location of high vibration you should probably assume that it is in such a location. Whether it was adequately tightened in the first place or otherwise prevented from loosening is a separate matter.

Any ground associated with a sensor circuit has the potential for causing erroneous signal input to whatever module uses that signal. Garbage in, garbage out doesn't sound like something I want happening within the steering system of any car I'm in.


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Old 03-18-2014, 10:15 AM   #247
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So are all the power steering failures related to this ground wire being altered , is there a pattern forming here.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:34 AM   #248
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Whoops... sorry for the late replies

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During the time that it sat it didn't have a battery tender attached, is that right, mlee?
No battery tender. It doesn't normally sit long enough to need one.

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So in not sure if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing? Be nice, lol.


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LOL... I was agreeing and just adding it seemed my issue was related to what you were saying.

I'd really like to know what the exact cause is. Someone has to know.

Also, don't think they really did anything to mine but it's never happened since. Just don't have that warm cozy feeling about it.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:42 AM   #249
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This is the first I've heard/read of this issue with the Camaro's. I was planning on a 2014 ZL1 this summer. Is this enough of a problem that I should reconsider? Is there something I should look for perhaps when taking delivery of the car?
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:44 AM   #250
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This is the first I've heard/read of this issue with the Camaro's. I was planning on a 2014 ZL1 this summer. Is this enough of a problem that I should reconsider? Is there something I should look for perhaps when taking delivery of the car?
I really don't think so. Not sure, but most have been the older 1012,13 cars.
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Old 03-25-2014, 03:34 PM   #251
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I thought I would bump this back up, just in case some people have not read the possible solutions to the power steering going out on thier ZL1.
Some helpfull info here.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:44 PM   #252
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I just wanted to add my 2 cents about the ground stud. I install a roto-fab intake & removed the ground wire & ball stud. The threads on the stud are triangular shaped(a locking bolt type) which can easily be stripped when removing. I used a thread chaser before installing a hex head bolt with star washers. I can remove my filter without lossening the box, and no steering problems. knock on wood!!!
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