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Old 03-18-2014, 05:40 PM   #18
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that is correct!
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"The Shelby’s specs indicate that 200 was not an anomaly but a hunted target. For 2013, the standard rear-end ratio drops from 3.55 (3.73 with optional Performance pack) to 3.31, making the engine lug in top gear at any speed below 80 mph. But the ratio change—no doubt also to improve everyday fuel economy—puts the 200 mark in fifth gear, the one Ford says it used, at about 6400 rpm, or just below the engine’s power peak. "

so going with the auto rear end should definitely do the trick!
I have changed the actual gears #5 and 6 in my manual trans and I have changed the rear end in my car. I don't recommend swapping to the 3.23 in a manual car unless you have a lot of power. It really makes gears 1 and 2 too tall. The stock ratios are perfect to hit 200 if you just add a little more power.
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:27 PM   #19
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I have changed the actual gears #5 and 6 in my manual trans and I have changed the rear end in my car. I don't recommend swapping to the 3.23 in a manual car unless you have a lot of power. It really makes gears 1 and 2 too tall. The stock ratios are perfect to hit 200 if you just add a little more power.
Man I could really use a taller 6th for highway. Do you think it would be better getting 5th and 6th? Or how does yours feel on the highway?
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:36 AM   #20
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Trade it in for a E60 M5. It does it with only 507 crank hp
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Let me ask a stupid question; Can't you just put your car on the bottle, get close, say 180-ish and then hit the NO2S?
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Old 03-19-2014, 10:37 AM   #22
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Let me ask a stupid question; Can't you just put your car on the bottle, get close, say 180-ish and then hit the NO2S?

what he asked consider it stupid question #2
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Old 03-19-2014, 04:18 PM   #23
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Man I could really use a taller 6th for highway. Do you think it would be better getting 5th and 6th? Or how does yours feel on the highway?
My 6th is a .68 when I had the 3.73 rear it would toss you back hard at any highway speed with no downshift but I live in the open country and make 100 mile drives everywhere. Occasionally if it is all clear I will cruise at about 150 and with that ratio I was cruising @ 4500 rpm... It was stupid fast in acceleration but really needed another gear for highway cruising. The 3.23 killed my 1/4 mile and made first real tall but it knocked off over 1000 rpm at speed. I just added the bottle to get around the acceleration issues.

So yeah, that is my solution, if it won't quite hit 200 on the blower give it a 300 shot.
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Old 03-19-2014, 04:32 PM   #24
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I will be looking for your video when you go out and hit 200. I don't want to use the bottle.
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:32 AM   #25
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Just add horsepower! My car hit 201.9 at the Texas Mile in October, 2013 ZL1 with a stock auto transmission & the stock auto rearend, I was around 950 rwhp on that pass. Traction & horsepower are the biggest issues to do it in a standing mile. Good luck Jess! I hope you join the club.
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Just add horsepower! My car hit 201.9 at the Texas Mile in October, 2013 ZL1 with a stock auto transmission & the stock auto rearend, I was around 950 rwhp on that pass. Traction & horsepower are the biggest issues to do it in a standing mile. Good luck Jess! I hope you join the club.
Thanks Josh, day 1 is complete. I've completed my qualifing runs and have a best of 187 so far. That was with a 100 shot and 30mph headwind. Just as a refrence, Snappy did 212 in the same conditions using a 400 shot. Plan for tomorrow is to raise my limiter to7 grand and give it a 250 shot.... stay tuned.
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You'll get it, your making alot more power than my car does. That's a crazy headwind to deal with though! Is it moving you around at all or coming straight at you?
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You'll get it, your making alot more power than my car does. That's a crazy headwind to deal with though! Is it moving you around at all or coming straight at you?
Unless something crazy happens tomorrow you record is going to stand. With the full nitrous shot, my throttle body is not strong enough to stay open above 6300 rpm. In keeps closing spontaniously and screwing me. I have made 193 at the 3/4 mile then surged between 188 and 193 three times in the last 1/4 mile while the nitrous cycles off and on based on throttle position. Basically the motor in the throttle body is not strong enough to stay open at 193+ mph airflow needs.... I'm going to run again tomorrow but unless a big tailwind picks up or something radically changes..... 193 is as good as it is going to get.
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that is correct!
Here's an interesting fact about the Shelby:
"The Shelby’s specs indicate that 200 was not an anomaly but a hunted target. For 2013, the standard rear-end ratio drops from 3.55 (3.73 with optional Performance pack) to 3.31, making the engine lug in top gear at any speed below 80 mph. But the ratio change—no doubt also to improve everyday fuel economy—puts the 200 mark in fifth gear, the one Ford says it used, at about 6400 rpm, or just below the engine’s power peak. "

so going with the auto rear end should definitely do the trick!
I can some what vouch for the hearing of the GT500. My cousin just purchased one s few weeks back. He said that the engine lugs really bad in 6th gear at normal highway cruising speeds, 75 mph.

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Unless something crazy happens tomorrow you record is going to stand. With the full nitrous shot, my throttle body is not strong enough to stay open above 6300 rpm. In keeps closing spontaniously and screwing me. I have made 193 at the 3/4 mile then surged between 188 and 193 three times in the last 1/4 mile while the nitrous cycles off and on based on throttle position. Basically the motor in the throttle body is not strong enough to stay open at 193+ mph airflow needs.... I'm going to run again tomorrow but unless a big tailwind picks up or something radically changes..... 193 is as good as it is going to get.
That sucks Jess! I'm sure you guys have tried everything you can, sucks because I know its been a goal of yours for awhile & you guys have been busting ass to get ready. Can you steal the throttle body off the V or the Vette? I'm sure you've tried everything.
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That sucks Jess! I'm sure you guys have tried everything you can, sucks because I know its been a goal of yours for awhile & you guys have been busting ass to get ready. Can you steal the throttle body off the V or the Vette? I'm sure you've tried everything.
Everyone already puloed out except for me. I'm still going to try to do it with shorter tires and using 6th gear. They plan on opening the track this afternoon. Wind is about 25 mph out of the north and temps have dropped to about 48 degrees...conditions will be ideal.
I'll let you know what happens.
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They had everything ready to go, track dry, ambulance in place, timing station ready and a car did a burnout and was at the line.....then it started to rain again and they called it. Not one car got to run on Sunday. Looks like it will be Oct at least before I can officially go 200 mph.
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Old 03-23-2014, 10:28 PM   #33
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That was a typo. Corrected to 315. Should I run smaller width tires up front?

After the cam up date I should be around 670-700hp. At least I am hoping for that.

I didn't notice my rpm at 180 I was focused mainly on the road.

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