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Old 04-16-2014, 05:04 PM   #1
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1LE or ZL1

New fully loaded 2014 1LE minus Nav or new 2013 ZL1 nav and sunroof, 6speed, price diff of 7-8k. Which one and why?
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Old 04-16-2014, 06:04 PM   #2
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New fully loaded 2014 1LE minus Nav or new 2013 ZL1 nav and sunroof, 6speed, price diff of 7-8k. Which one and why?
Asked myself the same question between 13' 1LE and 134 ZL1.

Have chosen the 1LE coz rear and wing of ZL1 looked ugly to me, coz a pony car has to be supercharger-free, coz 580 hp is prolly useless and prolly too much, coz i didn't trust ZL1 suspension.

In your case, depends on what you're planning to do. But i would never buy a car with sunroof... I know someone who have had a big and fast accident with his 1990 ZR1 corvette, sunroof exploded, he was nearly scalped and almost lost his hands when these scrapped on the road while the car was going upside down .... never get sunroofs ...
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:44 PM   #3
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New fully loaded 2014 1LE minus Nav or new 2013 ZL1 nav and sunroof, 6speed, price diff of 7-8k. Which one and why?
I would go with the ZL1. You get alot more for a reasonable price difference. I'm biased though.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:17 PM   #4
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Just say no to sunroofs. More weight in the worst possible location and less headroom.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:22 PM   #5
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:00 PM   #6
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IF price is not an option and you can manage the financing and insurance go with the ZL1. I was trying to find a used '13 ZL1 but was very very difficult to procure not to mention my credit union didn't want to finance a $48k car for a decent APR. I didn't want a '12 ZL1 which was easier to find and cheaper. I am happy either way cause the 1LE has really blown all my expectations and them some. Really love the car the way it sits modding is not going to be an issue for me because I don't want to mess with perfection. Sure a CAI kit and shorty headers down the road to stay compliant for smog in 5 years and to not piss on my warranty...
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:42 PM   #7
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not sure why someone wouldnt trust the zl1 suspension. its been on top of the line caddys and its known for its quality. probbaly surpased by the z28.

zl1. just cause you have the hp, doesnt mean you need it. but it is damn nice to know its there are your beck and call.

Pics on what you decide or we all come to your house with beer and chips.
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Old 04-16-2014, 10:00 PM   #8
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ZL1 and go drive. No need to upgrade anything.
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Old 04-16-2014, 10:49 PM   #9
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Like said before if price isnt an issue then there is only one logical choice. The ZL1 is clearly the better car......7K better but not 20K better.
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:20 AM   #10
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I have alot of respect for both cars but bought a ZL1 in the end. Very easy to drive normal, or fast, and the mag ride works really well. My main deciding factor is the drive train is very strong, so if I want more power the car will take it with minimum risk. Either way you choose you will have an excellent car.
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:29 AM   #11
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Like said before if price isnt an issue then there is only one logical choice. The ZL1 is clearly the better car......7K better but not 20K better.
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:21 AM   #12
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Like said before if price isnt an issue then there is only one logical choice. The ZL1 is clearly the better car......7K better but not 20K better.
So a brake upgrade, a supercharger, and complete rear end among many other ZL1 specific parts are only worth 7 grand?
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:10 AM   #13
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I would go for the 1LE. New car for $7k less.
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:15 AM   #14
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ZL1. A 1LE does not compare. Save the time and $ like I didnt do and just buy the ZL1. I made the mistake in buying a 1LE just to upgrade to a ZL1, 488 miles later.
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:40 AM   #15
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So a brake upgrade, a supercharger, and complete rear end among many other ZL1 specific parts are only worth 7 grand?
According to the dealer they are worth 20k + more. At 7k diff I will take the ZL1 everyday all day.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:02 AM   #16
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Depends on what you want to do with the car. If you can afford the ZL1 and will be satisfied with 500rwhp, go the ZL1 route. If you have any admirations about building a 800rwhp car or more, go the 1LE route because the amount of money you will have saved in going the 1LE route to throw into the car for mods will benefit you more...that was my thinking and route I chose!
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:22 AM   #17
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I love them both. Its really up to one's taste.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:20 AM   #18
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It's a hard decision for sure. I almost sold my 1LE but the buyer had cold feet at paper signing! It's bitter sweet because I love my car so much.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:32 AM   #19
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not sure why someone wouldnt trust the zl1 suspension. its been on top of the line caddys and its known for its quality. probbaly surpased by the z28.

zl1. just cause you have the hp, doesnt mean you need it. but it is damn nice to know its there are your beck and call.

Pics on what you decide or we all come to your house with beer and chips.
No trust in ZL1 mag ride coz' in Europe with Zero guarantee and zero people to repair if it breaks ...

Besides, having the power doesn't mean you need it, but having the power doesn't mean you have the skills to drive it ...

I think 430HP is already a LOT of power and even if very few will admit overhere, it's not everybody's car (I mean, for real driving, drag isn't driving).

I've been in that "I want to most power available", but realized then it would be kinda useless, prolly dangerous, and that there would always be cars with more HP than mine.

Lots of people here are pointing the ZL1 upgrades, but don't mention the fact these upgrades aren't necessarily needed in a 1LE (brakes and supension needs are lower due to lower weight, power etc ..).

I'm not here trying to convince myself my 1LE is a better car than a ZL1. I could afford a 1LE and a ZL1, even a Corvette too. I just mean the 1LE is a better car FOR ME (i'm not a straight line guy, i like turns and shifting!).

Performance numbers, ratios, specs are interesting, but only related to your driving style and your skills too.

Take a look at the "I hate the 1LE" topic, the 1LE is supposed to be better in every aspect, still that guy was hating it, regretting his SS ...

Test drive, figure out what you wanna do with the car. Then decide.

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Old 04-17-2014, 12:05 PM   #20
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In the end it down to what the Op wants. Both cars can handle alot more power. The ZL1 handles 580 just fine as long as you dont get stupid with it. Both cars can get you in trouble quick if you dont respect it. Both cars will need brake up grades for track days. ZL1 is more pads and fluid. ZL1 rear is much stronger and is better suited for hard launches and can handle alot of power. CON it does add weight. Best question is what will the OP use the car for.
Since both cars are new....I would go for the Z.
There both great track cars.
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:19 PM   #21
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Get the 2014 1LE the tailights look better LMAO always has to be one of us LOL
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:52 PM   #22
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Thanks to everyone for all the input. I am unable to test drive either car due to if 1 is local it is a showroom queen. Thanks for a site like C5 I am able to get feedback from actual owners. I am still bouncing back and forth between the 2 cars but plan on making a decission today and start the paperwork.

Thanks again for all the feedback.

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Old 04-17-2014, 02:23 PM   #23
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I don't think it's been mentioned in the replies above but another thing you may want to consider is the ZL1 would probably hold it's re-sale value better. I still see ZL1's selling for high 40's. A 1LE once driven off the lot will be hard to sell for more than low to mid 30's even when it's still very new. To a lot of people the 1LE is just not seen as being that much more than an SS in terms of overall car (except in the eyes of us that know what the 1LE really means).

So if you can really get a ZL1 for only 7K more then that would be a hard decision. I really love my 1LE. But it would be hard to say no to a ZL1 if the prices were that similar.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:42 PM   #24
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Just remember if it's new from the dealer you have to pay a gas guzzler tax for the ZL1. But even then i choose the ZL1 for that price difference, just don't drive it into a pool...
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:00 PM   #25
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I think 430HP is already a LOT of power and even if very few will admit overhere, it's not everybody's car (I mean, for real driving, drag isn't driving).

I've been in that "I want to most power available", but realized then it would be kinda useless, prolly dangerous, and that there would always be cars with more HP than mine.
Sorry, but I have to comment on this... I don't drag race my 1LE, I track (road course) and Autocross it. On a road course, torque is king compared to HP. The quicker you can get back on the power after a hairpin turn or a chicane, the quicker your lap time will be.

Not all Americans live to drag race you know...

If you only drive on the street; yes, this has plenty of power. However, if you track your 1LE, you will start wishing for more power to reduce your lap times... Once hooked, you will do almost anything to shave a couple of tenths around the track...
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