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Old 03-25-2014, 06:11 AM   #15
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Would the bmr control arm work for the dse anti roll bar?
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:43 PM   #16
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Thanks, we are a lot better at designing and building suspension products than we are on the forums however I will do the best I can to help out with customers and questions.

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Old 03-27-2014, 10:21 AM   #17
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We're running the DSE Speed Kit III with the FE4/FE5 sways and it is an awesome set up!!!! The front sway is a 28mm and the rear sway is a 35mm which are adjustable (tubular). I would suggest adding them to the list as they are one of the better balanced set ups we've run on our Camaro.







DSE also offers an adjustable FE4/FE5 rear endlink that is like nothing else available. We're working on a complete write up listing all of their products and our impressions but their parts are nothing short of the best we've used.

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Old 03-27-2014, 10:29 AM   #18
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IK have the LSR rear with adjustable endlinks too. no noise and full adjustability

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Old 04-06-2014, 09:09 PM   #19
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Not trying to thread jack. I'm interested in getting the Detroit speed sway bars. I have a 2012 ss with the ZL1 staggered wheels and tires on pfadt drop springs. What would u guys recommend for the best sway bar combo.
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Old 04-06-2014, 10:23 PM   #20
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Not trying to thread jack. I'm interested in getting the Detroit speed sway bars. I have a 2012 ss with the ZL1 staggered wheels and tires on pfadt drop springs. What would u guys recommend for the best sway bar combo.
To compensate for the built in understeer with the staggered ZL1 wheels and tires you should look for a 4 to 5mm difference in bar diameter.

Rear Bar Diameter less Front Bar Diameter = 4 of 5mm
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:25 AM   #21
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To compensate for the built in understeer with the staggered ZL1 wheels and tires you should look for a 4 to 5mm difference in bar diameter.

Rear Bar Diameter less Front Bar Diameter = 4 of 5mm
Is there a best bang for the buck kit? ZL spec would have been my first choice from what I read but what would be next in line?
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:48 AM   #22
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Here's some additional information for our BMR Sway Bars.....

SB016 -- Front Sway Bar (without electric steering), 1.125 OD, 0.188 Wall Thickness, 3-Way Adjustable.

SB038 -- Front Sway Bar (with electric steering), 1.125 OD, 0.188 Wall Thickness, 3-Way Adjustable.

SB017 -- FE3 Style Rear Sway Bar, 1.00 OD, 0.25 Wall Thickness, 3-Way Adjustable.

SB033 -- FE4 Style Rear Sway Bar, 1.25 OD, 0.25 Wall Thickness, 3-Way Adjustable.

XSB004 -- Extreme Anti-Roll Bar (FE3 Style), 1.375 OD, 0.25 Wall Thickness, 3-Way Adjustable.
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:19 AM   #23
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Can anyone confirm if Pedders front sway bar (428020-27A) is compatible with a 2013 ZL1?
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:56 AM   #24
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Can anyone confirm if Pedders front sway bar (428020-27A) is compatible with a 2013 ZL1?
Yes and no. You can use it with the OEM ZL1 bar, but I don't recommend it.

All main stream automobile manufacturers build understeer into their vehicles for safety and liability. The vast majority of drivers will apply their brakes when a vehicle starts to slide. This is especially true since the introduction of ABS brakes. Stand on the ABS and things will get better with a vehicle that understeers. On a vehicle that oversteers, lifting off the accelerator will make things worse.

Knowing this, a performance driver will opt for a larger than stock rear bar and a smaller than stock front bar ratio setup. This brings the OE understeer to a more neutral or oversteer bias. A 1LE delivers with the same size front and rear tires to deliver a more neutral 5th Gen. The square tire setup makes the 1LE so neutral the OE engineers made the front sway bar larger than the ZL1 to bring back a slight understeer bias. 1LE owners will benefit from the installation of an OE ZL1 front bar. ZL1 owners will benefit from installing a 32mm rear bar with the OEM front bar.

An adjustable front 27mm bar set to soft will function close to a 26mm bar. Pair that with a 32mm rear Z style bar and you have 6mm of 'ovcersteer' bias. A 28mm rear ZL1 / 1LE bar mated to a 23mm front bar is a difference of 5mm. You get the idea.

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Old 05-08-2014, 10:10 AM   #25
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Yes and no. You can use it with the OEM ZL1 bar, but I don't recommend it.

All main stream automobile manufacturers build understeer into their vehicles for safety and liability. The vast majority of drivers will apply their brakes when a vehicle starts to slide. This is especially true since the introduction of ABS brakes. Stand on the ABS and things will get better with a vehicle that understeers. On a vehicle that oversteers, lifting off the accelerator will make things worse.

Knowing this, a performance driver will opt for a larger than stock rear bar and a smaller than stock front bar ratio setup. This brings the OE understeer to a more neutral or oversteer bias. A 1LE delivers with the same size front and rear tires to deliver a more neutral 5th Gen. The square tire setup makes the 1LE so neutral the OE engineers made the front sway bar larger than the ZL1 to bring back a slight understeer bias. 1LE owners will benefit from the installation of an OE ZL1 front bar. ZL1 owners will benefit from installing a 32mm rear bar with the OEM front bar.

An adjustable front 27mm bar set to soft will function close to a 26mm bar. Pair that with a 32mm rear Z style bar and you have 6mm of 'ovcersteer' bias. A 28mm rear ZL1 / 1LE bar mated to a 23mm front bar is a difference of 5mm. You get the idea.

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I realize you're an extremely busy man and I really do appreciate the response. I realize going to an aftermarket front sway is ill-advised if I were to stay with an OEM rear. I'm planning on switching out both Sways, however it looks like I can get a Pedder's front, unfortunately I cannot find the Z Spec rear so I would likely have to go with a different brand. Which was what brought me here, do I mix and match (Pedder's front with a different company rear) or for consistency sake, stick with one brand. Not that it really matters that much, but if I go with a solid front and hollow tubing rear I am going to have to take into consideration the OD of the rear sway.
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:22 AM   #26
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Baylor, go with LSR or Detroit Speed
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:55 AM   #27
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Baylor, go with LSR or Detroit Speed
Yeah I'm thinking Detroit Speed. That's what Jordan @ JDP is running and I was impressed with his car / times, to say the least

The one thing I do not like about the Detroit Speed front sway is that it appears (per their site) you cannot adjust it. So I MAY do LSR (or Pedders) front and Detroit Speed rear..
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Rear LSR Bar
CNC bent from tubular 1-3/8 inch DOM steel and then TIG welded with billet steel ends. Each end provides three adjustment positions for fine tuning of handling balance.

Compared to the factory ZL1 bar, the first position is the same as stock, position 2 is 10% stiffer, and position 3 is 26% stiffer.

If you are upgrading to this bar on an SS model, the first position is 76% stiffer than stock, position 2 is 100% stiffer, and position 3 will be 130% stiffer.
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