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Old 02-28-2007, 06:56 PM   #1
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09 camaro vs 69 camaro comparison

well boys and girls im new to this site this is my first post ever and first thread ever. i very glad to be part of this site.

now i went to the toronto auto show last week and took a couple pics of the 09 camaro. the one thing i aint liking about the car is the front end, it does not ressemble a 69 at all. everything else is alrite but GM must fix the front end.

now for the pics. o btw the 1969 ss is my dads
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Old 02-28-2007, 07:11 PM   #2
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I know what you mean, I was not to sure about the front end at first. Now, I love it. I feel that GM should not change a thing… You have to remember that the New Camaro borrowed design characteristics from the 69 and is not a full retro design; although, a lot of people will argue the retro point. The vision of the GM design team was to produce a modern version of the Camaro as if it would have evolved from the first generation Camaro… GM has a big hit on there hands… Give it time, the front will grow on you.

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Old 02-28-2007, 07:16 PM   #3
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Tell your dad I said to tell him Im sorry whenever it goes missing.

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Old 02-28-2007, 07:24 PM   #4
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:06 AM   #5
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Welcome to the site N1tem4r3. Gotta ask what that stands for... Love your dads Camaro!!! As for the front end, I feel just like Killer does. I didn't like the front end either, but it grew on me over time. I thought about numerous different designs they could have gone with, but this just seems to work so well. Give it some time and maybe it'll grow on you too. If not, I'm sure the aftermarket will kill that itch.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:23 AM   #7
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:16 AM   #8
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I am with TAG and KILLER on this one. I for one did not want a full retro design, and I am very please with what they came up with. It has some obvious cues from the 69, but unlike the Challenger, it is not an updated replica of the '69. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the '69 (Your dad's looks AMAZING by the way!) but if I wanted a car that looked like one I would just go out and restore one.

It seems as though people are in a love it or hate it kind of category with the front end. Honestly, when I saw the front of that car, I immediately started saving my money.... I absolutely love the looks of that front and the rear tail lights. I can honestly say that I would not change a single thing about the exterior of the new Camaro...
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:33 AM   #9
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Ya I agree too, I love the front end of the car, it reminds me of the 69 because of the pointed grill and the, well...not perfectly round headlights, but them to. And at night when all the lights are on, damn that thing looks mean. All and your dad does have a nice car.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:04 PM   #10
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I would say I wont change anything... but I know about a year or less after release they are going to have some insane body kits.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:10 PM   #11
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thanks for all the comments guys, my dad also has a 70 z28 .

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well the numbers are just replacing some letters from Nitemare it was a thing my clan had in the counter strike days lol (man that sounds nerdy).

also whats the deal with that little vent in the front nose, and are they gona change the gauges.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:13 PM   #12
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:38 PM   #13
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Old 03-01-2007, 05:22 PM   #14
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also whats the deal with that little vent in the front nose, and are they gona change the gauges.
I know for certain that they are experimenting with different instrument cluster designs . Not sure about the console gauges though.

As for the air intake on the nose... I am not sure what the deal is with it, and I haven't decided if I like it. I seemt o change my mind on a daily basis. I certainly wouldn't mind if it doesn't make production, however from reports, if the only major visual that differentiates the production version and the concept exterior are the door handles, then i would have to say that the nose vent is gonna stay.
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I wouldn't change a thing on the concept. I see a resemblance to the '69, but just that, a 'resemblance'. It wasn't intended to be a copy of the original like the Mustang and Challenger were.

Looks perfect to me.
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:00 PM   #16
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As for the air intake on the nose... I am not sure what the deal is with it, and I haven't decided if I like it. I seemt o change my mind on a daily basis. I certainly wouldn't mind if it doesn't make production, however from reports, if the only major visual that differentiates the production version and the concept exterior are the door handles, then i would have to say that the nose vent is gonna stay.
I would imagine it has some functionality, seems like a very good place for an intercooler.
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First, thanks for the pics from the auto show, wish I was there to see in person. Second, yeah, your dad has a sweet car, I gave my son my 1969 Camaro Sports Coupe, myself. So, now, I can go by myself a new one. I am trying to get used to the front grille, your comparisons show that the 2009 has a bit of plastic below the lights, the '69 uses sheet metal and maybe this accounts for the difference I notice. That area in the 2009 could, maybe, use a little refinement. Yeah, I agree with another person here, there will be plenty of body kits to address this. As for the back, same story, seems a bit of plastic below taillights, the '69 uses less sheet metal. To my surprise, the rear roof window seems the same, but the roofline is sleeker in the 2009, the one flaw I would say the 1969 would have in today's aerodynamic environment. Another surprise is that the picture of the 2009 front grille taken straight on, shows that it is wider than in other pictures, is that how it looks overall? I mean, wider instead of how it seems narrow in most pictures? Also, in some photos the rear quarter looks angular, in others it seems to have a curve, how is it in person? Going back to the front grille, the hideaway light system, I think, would solve any potential styling shortfall there. Well, when I get my 2009, I can invite my son over with his 1969 and we will have the best of both worlds, anyway.
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First, thanks for the pics from the auto show, wish I was there to see in person. Second, yeah, your dad has a sweet car, I gave my son my 1969 Camaro Sports Coupe, myself. So, now, I can go by myself a new one. I am trying to get used to the front grille, your comparisons show that the 2009 has a bit of plastic below the lights, the '69 uses sheet metal and maybe this accounts for the difference I notice. That area in the 2009 could, maybe, use a little refinement. Yeah, I agree with another person here, there will be plenty of body kits to address this. As for the back, same story, seems a bit of plastic below taillights, the '69 uses less sheet metal. To my surprise, the rear roof window seems the same, but the roofline is sleeker in the 2009, the one flaw I would say the 1969 would have in today's aerodynamic environment. Another surprise is that the picture of the 2009 front grille taken straight on, shows that it is wider than in other pictures, is that how it looks overall? I mean, wider instead of how it seems narrow in most pictures? Also, in some photos the rear quarter looks angular, in others it seems to have a curve, how is it in person? Going back to the front grille, the hideaway light system, I think, would solve any potential styling shortfall there. Well, when I get my 2009, I can invite my son over with his 1969 and we will have the best of both worlds, anyway.


Here's a pic I took at the Philly Auto Show. It's one of my favorite angles on the car. I hope it helps with your questions regarding the rear quarter area. I'd say it's both angular AND curved.

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Old 03-02-2007, 09:38 PM   #19
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Old 03-02-2007, 09:42 PM   #20
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Thanks, yeah, it is both angular and curved, looks very nice.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:54 AM   #21
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idk but i would not change a thing at all.
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nice 69 your dad has there and welcome to the site. i never saw anything really wrong with the front end of the car personally. i think its perfect for the car. they couldn't make it tooo close to what the orginal or it wont look right on a modern car. the design team has mixed it together well i feel.
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:22 PM   #23
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I've come to the conclusion that the nose vent is actually part of the intake...
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