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Old 08-15-2014, 01:48 AM   #14961
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People hate the Z/28 because it doesn't come with all the "stuff" we have been trained to believe a car needs. If it came with power adjustable seats that were heated, cooled and massaged their ass, heated and cooled steering wheel, GPS and all the other gadgetry, it would be worth the price. They don't care about carbon ceramic brakes, a hand built V8, standard Recaros, DSSV suspension and all the engineering that went it to it. They want the stuff and the ability to say they have a Z/28. That is what matters most to people now a days.

I'm the opposite. I want my car to be like a Z/28. I don't need all the technology. I don't need power seats. The A/C in my car doesn't even work. I just roll the window down.
i guess. Most of the crying i saw was "overpriced" "its too much for the average joe" etc
IDK

I love what the Z/28 is. In fact it may even have too much "stuff" for me.

It is a factory hot rod that really IMO only needs a beefier camshaft to utilize those heads

i want one to drive daily.
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Old 08-15-2014, 10:31 AM   #14962
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If there were only one answer we'd be bored stiff.

Imagine if we were arguing over which of the 3 4400 pound 707 hp cars was the best.
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Old 08-15-2014, 04:27 PM   #14963
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i guess. Most of the crying i saw was "overpriced" "its too much for the average joe" etc
IDK

I love what the Z/28 is. In fact it may even have too much "stuff" for me.

It is a factory hot rod that really IMO only needs a beefier camshaft to utilize those heads

i want one to drive daily.
Yeah, well you can thank emissions regulations for the camshaft. Even if I could afford one, I would have to leave it stock due to living in California.
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Old 08-15-2014, 05:12 PM   #14964
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Yeah, well you can thank emissions regulations for the camshaft. Even if I could afford one, I would have to leave it stock due to living in California.
I am just outside of Chicago's testing circle

Although there was some chatter about making it statewide - i doubt it happens. It is a bunch of farmland outside of Chicago and then down by St Louis (the other testing area in the state)

Its a liberal and corrupt state - but at least it is concentrated
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Old 08-17-2014, 08:40 PM   #14965
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Ouch, C7 Z06 weighs 3,525 lbs. I knew it would be heavy but that is not good.

http://www.corvette7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373638
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Old 08-17-2014, 08:55 PM   #14966
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Ouch, C7 Z06 weighs 3,525 lbs. I knew it would be heavy but that is not good.

http://www.corvette7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373638
On the C6 Z06, the aluminum frame and carbon fiber shaved over 160 pounds. The MUCH bigger wheels, tires, brakes and 8 quart dry sump LS7 added most of it right back in. So now that that the base C7 has the aluminum frame and CF, the Z06 is pure plus weight for all that performance.
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:04 PM   #14967
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On the C6 Z06, the aluminum frame and carbon fiber shaved over 160 pounds. The MUCH bigger wheels, tires, brakes and 8 quart dry sump LS7 added most of it right back in. So now that that the base C7 has the aluminum frame and CF, the Z06 is pure plus weight for all that performance.
I understand that and was one of the few people who expected a significant weight gain. I'm just disappointed one of my favorite badges is so far off what it used to be.
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:26 PM   #14968
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I wish my Z/28 had manual windows/mirrors. I'm the only one that drives it, so once the mirrors are set, I'm good. Don't need to use the windows with the working AC.
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:35 PM   #14969
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I wish my Z/28 had manual windows/mirrors. I'm the only one that drives it, so once the mirrors are set, I'm good. Don't need to use the windows with the working AC.
That would take it to a new level.......but likely only save 5 more pounds.
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Old 08-17-2014, 10:36 PM   #14970
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I wish my Z/28 had manual windows/mirrors. ........ Don't need to use the windows with the working AC.
I believe GM said that manual windows actually added weight to the car over the electric version. Of course that little bit of weight won't mean much to those that won't be able to, or don't want to, push the car to where it matters.
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Old 08-18-2014, 07:44 AM   #14971
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Ouch, C7 Z06 weighs 3,525 lbs. I knew it would be heavy but that is not good.
Think of it this way: with ALL the bits added vs. the Z51, it ONLY gained 100 lb.

Glass MUCH more than 1/2 full...
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Old 08-18-2014, 09:14 AM   #14972
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Think of it this way: with ALL the bits added vs. the Z51, it ONLY gained 100 lb.

Glass MUCH more than 1/2 full...
So you are saying the glass is half full
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Old 08-18-2014, 11:12 AM   #14973
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Bottom line is all cars are gaining weight due to regulations and equipment. Even super cars are gaining weight. However the good news is HP is growing with it.
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Old 08-18-2014, 11:18 AM   #14974
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Think of it this way: with ALL the bits added vs. the Z51, it ONLY gained 100 lb.

Glass MUCH more than 1/2 full...

Car is still significantly heavier than most people imagined. Not to mention it has nothing in common with previous Z06 cars. That's what I don't like about this car.
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Old 08-18-2014, 05:48 PM   #14975
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Car is still significantly heavier than most people imagined. Not to mention it has nothing in common with previous Z06 cars. That's what I don't like about this car.
Do you mean mostly the forced induction? It seems that, to make the numbers they got on HP and torque, the design team had to make a significant break from the past. I tend to prefer N.A. engines, especially on track, but the Z06 numbers are impressive. The curb weight, less so...
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Old 08-18-2014, 06:48 PM   #14976
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Do you mean mostly the forced induction? It seems that, to make the numbers they got on HP and torque, the design team had to make a significant break from the past. I tend to prefer N.A. engines, especially on track, but the Z06 numbers are impressive. The curb weight, less so...
Basically, the entire package. I would rather it be a stripped down, hard top only, manual only, N/A engine with the DSSV dampers off the Z/28. I would want it to be as track focused as possible while being barely street legal. What I loved about the previous two Z06s is they were fast because they were so well balanced, not because they had ridiculously high horsepower.

I get they put an auto in it because people demanded it but those people don't really want a Z06. I know they made it convertible because people demanded it but those people don't really want a Z06.
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Basically, the entire package. I would rather it be a stripped down, hard top only, manual only, N/A engine with the DSSV dampers off the Z/28. I would want it to be as track focused as possible while being barely street legal. What I loved about the previous two Z06s is they were fast because they were so well balanced, not because they had ridiculously high horsepower.

I get they put an auto in it because people demanded it but those people don't really want a Z06. I know they made it convertible because people demanded it but those people don't really want a Z06.
Maybe that's a recipe for the GS?
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